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Where did you get the photos that you posted? They do not appear in the ad. Right off the bat, I wouldn't trust the owner and the broker, David McKenney of Brewer Yacht Sales, of N. Kingstown, RI.
They deliberately avoided taking photos of any of the damaged areas and the broker lied in his ad saying: "This one has a new engine, sails, electronics and more. She has been well maintained."
I took the photos yesterday.

In his defense when I called him he did tell me about the damage.

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I replaced the ply around all the ports on my Columbia with an off white laminate over well sealed plywood and it looked fantastic. However I wouldn't tackle a structural bulkhead, Im an experienced woodworker but I would have to really love a great deal to dig into one like that.
I didn't get my pocket knife out but the bulkhead problem may be only the top layer of veneer.

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New motor and then head rebuilt 3 years later...right
120 hrs...right
Owner is smoking his own dope...
Cut asking in half...then look at it
I'm not sure what you are implying.

The motor does look new.

I'll post some motor picture below.

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Looks like PT 4x4 for mounting the engine.
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David, I take it you're in the market to buy a boat. Do you want a project boat?


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Was that really a couple of pieces of raw fence post held down with L-brackets and used as stringers to mount the engine on?

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Looks like pressure treated 4X6 which hopefully are through bolted in a few places and not just held in place with wood screws.
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Looks like pressure treated 4X6 which hopefully are through bolted in a few places and not just held in place with wood screws.
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If they are just lagged in the threads will eventually tear out the wood.
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I'm not sure what you are implying.

The motor does look new.

I'll post some motor picture below.
Something serious happened to that engine.
Maybe a gasket was replaced after an overheat and owner is calling it a head job.
Maybe head is not warped.
Maybe over heating did no other damage.

.....maybe a very different problem....

Imho, boat is way over priced with the water damage you already are aware of. Then there are the unknowns.

My experience is that owners dont get slack on just one thing.....slack on many things
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Re: Another Wet Ericson

There really is something odd about the engine pictures. Whoever painted that engine painted over rust and oil and did not seem to have done even the most minimal preparation, or to bother to get a paint that vaguely matches the factory paint color. Its a really halfhearted job of it and while there are mechanics who can do great work and not care about the aesthetics of what they do, most mechanics who routinely rebuild engines, tend to be much more careful than whomever painted this engine.

But beyond that the pressure treated pine engine beds are just plain crazy. Its not unusual for the engine beds to need to be modified when a different engine is installed. Normally this is done with some mix or glass work that perhaps uses hardwood blocking inside the glass work. I can't ever recall seeing an installation on a glass boat where timber engine beds have been left exposed, and I certainly can't ever remember seeing softwood used for an engine bed. Even on a wooden boats the engine beds would have been hardwood (typically white oak).

You seriously need to keep looking for a different boat. With all the work that this boat needs to correct the shoddy repairs and the damage from deferred maintenance, this boat has a value in the well less than $20K range, (and maybe less than 10K) and I can't imagine the seller agreeing to that. Plus you are not looking for a project boat and this one is a major project.

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Re: Another Wet Ericson

All that panel damage is ply and would have to be replaced. The solid wood could be sanded back and refinished.

If you have the skills and time, are looking for a project and got the boat for about 1/3 of the ask I'd say do it.

Otherwise move on.

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