Another Wet Ericson - Page 5 - SailNet Community
 35Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #41 of 49 Old 12-09-2018
Learning the HARD way...
 
eherlihy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston / Ft Myers Area
Posts: 6,832
Thanks: 393
Thanked 296 Times in 291 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by tempest View Post
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/198...owse%20listing

David, Here's an example of a 35 ft. boat for $18,500, that appears to be in much better condition.
Hell, I'm tempted to buy this one. And I already own an O'day 35! The (repainted) M25 looks to be in great shape, new fuel tank, and the original blue cushions (why can't anyone find this velour material?) which look GREAT make this a deal. Check the keel bolts.

Dave's school used to have an O'day 35, so he knows how it behaves.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

USCG Licensed OUPV Captain, ASA 101/103/104/105/106/114/118 Instructor - Also certified in Marine Electrical Systems


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
eherlihy is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 49 Old 12-09-2018 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
davidpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 5,090
Thanks: 530
Thanked 91 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaStar58 View Post
There needs to be more awareness that when your dealing with mold its like dealing with a slow fire that is eating away at everything around it 24/7 until you put it completely out.

Hope your recovery is complete and speedy.
That is amazing.

How does one decontaminate a lightly molded boat?

How do you fog with what?

The lesson from the Icarus story is not about human failing.
It is a lesson about the limitations of wax as an adhesive.
If you have an engineering problem solve it.
davidpm is offline  
post #43 of 49 Old 12-10-2018
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Posts: 20,196
Thanks: 82
Thanked 573 Times in 549 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
That is amazing.

How does one decontaminate a lightly molded boat?

How do you fog with what?
Two methods I know of.

One is an ozone generator, but the Ozone is very bad for rubber or plastic or both. It's controversial whether one treatment is acceptable.

The other is chlorine dioxide gas.

The trick with both is needing to go to extreme lengths to seal the boat from air leaks and insure the gas can reach all unseen places.

I've never done either. Prevention is the best answer.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Jeanneau 54DS

In the harsh marine environment, something is always in need of repair. Margaritas fix everything.
Minnewaska is offline  
 
post #44 of 49 Old 12-10-2018
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,128
Thanks: 0
Thanked 71 Times in 71 Posts
Rep Power: 2
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
That is amazing.

How does one decontaminate a lightly molded boat?

How do you fog with what?
The least destructive and people/pet/food safe I've see so far is by fogging with an aqueous solution of food grade (same as in your corn flakes) TriSodiumPhosphate using a fogger leaving all interior inspection hatches and such open and the exterior ones closed to get the best overall coverage and you can spot treat with a spray bottle or compression sprayer set to a fine mist. The area being treated of course has to be dry so the TriSodiumPhosphate will be absorbed and dry out bursting the cell structure of the mold spores.


Here is one example of a fogger:




Most people will not require much in the way of safety gear with the Concrobium TriSodiumPhosphate formula aside from maybe a pair of safety glasses so you don't get it directly in your eyes and perhaps a painters mask. If you have very sensitive skin you may want to wear long sleeves and long pants during the fogging process. Home Depot has been having the Concrobium on sale for less than $8 a gallon for a while now and may have the fogger available in their tool rental area.

Some may get a bit hot under the collar about making a home brew using painters TSP from the hardware store however that is a personal choice whether you want to experiment with finding a proven safe formula that will work without creating a higher risk of damage to finishes or skin irritations.

After treatment you can wash away any visible mold residue. After initial treatment and cleaning a light fogging will leave enough of the product on the surfaces to help reduce the chance of re-infestation as mold spores can be in the air coming in from outside especially where there is rotting vegetation and mossy trees are in the area or coming from your dock mates moldy boat. Absorbent pads, desiccant and such or a small dehumidifier can help with the prevention too. Any thing to keep the dampness at bay to prevent having a mold friendly environment.
Shawn Wright likes this.
SeaStar58 is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to SeaStar58 For This Useful Post:
davidpm (12-10-2018)
post #45 of 49 Old 12-10-2018
Dirt Free
 
boatpoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,554
Thanks: 22
Thanked 145 Times in 140 Posts
Rep Power: 12
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

SeaStar, given my experience I believe this mold issue deserves more attention and wider distribution. You obviously have the expertise, it would be terrific if you started a new thread on the consequences and remediation of mold.

The hysterical laughter you hear as you drive a way in your"new" boat ..... is the seller.
boatpoker is offline  
post #46 of 49 Old 12-10-2018 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
davidpm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Madison
Posts: 5,090
Thanks: 530
Thanked 91 Times in 81 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by eherlihy View Post
Hell, I'm tempted to buy this one. And I already own an O'day 35! The (repainted) M25 looks to be in great shape, new fuel tank, and the original blue cushions (why can't anyone find this velour material?) which look GREAT make this a deal. Check the keel bolts.

Dave's school used to have an O'day 35, so he knows how it behaves.
I called on the O'Day.

The broker said it is not a cream puff, but not trashed.
It needs cushions.

Sails are "good" but might be original don't know but they are fine.
eherlihy likes this.

The lesson from the Icarus story is not about human failing.
It is a lesson about the limitations of wax as an adhesive.
If you have an engineering problem solve it.
davidpm is offline  
post #47 of 49 Old 12-10-2018
Learning the HARD way...
 
eherlihy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston / Ft Myers Area
Posts: 6,832
Thanks: 393
Thanked 296 Times in 291 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
I called on the O'Day.

The broker said it is not a cream puff, but not trashed.
It needs cushions.

Sails are "good" but might be original don't know but they are fine.
So would it be worth your either going to look at it with your moisture meter in hand, or asking someone in that area from SailNet to take a quick look on your behalf? Plan on replacing cushions and all canvas ($6K for sails, $6k for canvas). If you choose someone from SailNet, give them a list of things that you want a report and photos of, and offer them $150 for their time the photos and report.

If it pans out, you just saved $38K. If not, you are out $150. - And, someone from SailNet can take their spouse out for a nice dinner.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

USCG Licensed OUPV Captain, ASA 101/103/104/105/106/114/118 Instructor - Also certified in Marine Electrical Systems


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
eherlihy is online now  
The Following User Says Thank You to eherlihy For This Useful Post:
davidpm (12-10-2018)
post #48 of 49 Old 12-11-2018
Old enough to know better
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Beacon, NY
Posts: 4,325
Thanks: 28
Thanked 187 Times in 182 Posts
Rep Power: 13
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Quote:
Originally Posted by RegisteredUser View Post
New motor and then head rebuilt 3 years later...right
120 hrs...right
Owner is smoking his own dope...
Cut asking in half...then look at it
I think they are talking about the head in the bathroom, not the engine. Though I would be very concerned about the transmission on that M25XPB as there was severe issues with transmission failures at about the number of hours on this engine. Likely no warranty left so you can plan on a the cost of a replacement. Odd choice of motor as that issue was fairly well known by then, must have gotten a smokin deal on the motor and install. Wonder if the fence at the yard that did it is still standing without the posts! The soft wood mounts would do no favors to the transmission either as it would not allow for accurate alignment as the pressure treated wood would shift too much. I would be very concerned about that engine install, looks pretty shoddy.

The price is insane, not even a proper well maintained boat would sell for that much or likely even half.

1976 C&C 33
Project boat, lots of work to be done!
miatapaul is offline  
post #49 of 49 Old 01-08-2019
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 52
Thanks: 39
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: Another Wet Ericson

Walk away...there are many boats for sale that the owner took real "pride in ownership" . Make an honest decision, would someone buy this boat if you were the owner and trying to sell this boat?

Unless you have abundant time, tools and knowledge you will spend most of your time on a mooring or slip working on this boat.

Keep looking.
Capt Mulch is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How wet is too wet? DCourtney Gear & Maintenance 25 09-05-2016 01:20 PM
Ericson 36 RH or Ericson 34x? Want2GoSail Boat Review and Purchase Forum 8 03-14-2015 09:31 PM
ericson 35 vs ericson 32-200 drcam1 Boat Reviews 1 06-21-2010 09:46 PM
Yet another wet deck davidpm Boat Review and Purchase Forum 6 11-08-2009 10:54 PM
Here we go again, another barg and another bridge GySgt General Discussion (sailing related) 2 01-11-2008 01:58 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome