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outbound 04-02-2019 08:12 AM

Putting her away
 
Have decades of experience laying up a boat for winter storage in the US northeast but no experience putting a boat on the hard in the tropics for the summer
Would appreciate any advice about putting my Outbound 46 away at Clarkeís Court Grenada 🇬🇩.

SanderO 04-02-2019 08:31 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
One of the risks is Hurricanes which are lower in the Grenada and Trinidad. Some people I know who stored had the hull buried so it wouldn't tip off the stands. Protect from UV and provide for ventilation.

colemj 04-02-2019 08:58 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
Do yourself a favor and put some of these throughout the boat: https://www.njsupply.com/SunPac-Mild...4_p_70422.html

They will not only keep the boat free of mold and mildew, they keep bugs out of the interior of the boat. I think you can get them in Grenada - ask around.

If possible, put in a dehumidifier. Make sure to plug all entries into the boat, like engine room vents, tank vents, etc - bugs and daubers like to nest in them. Use screening material so that air can still pass.

Mark

outbound 04-02-2019 10:02 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
Been told conflicting information
Some close dorades and any other openings. Hang dehumidifier bags and mildewcide.
Some stuff bronze wool in dorades and any other openings but leave things open

Some put cover over boat to protect from uv.
Some don’t due to fear it will become partially detached flail in the wind and cause damage. Also concern it will limit ventilation.

Some hire a service to check on the boat.
Some don’t.

Some disconnect batteries.
Some just turn off inverter and depend on their solar and wind to keep thing charged.
(We have lifeline agms - solar and wind)

Some leave water tanks completely empty.
Some completely full.
All leave fuel full and holding empty.

What do you do and why?

colemj 04-02-2019 11:41 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outbound (Post 2051593332)
Been told conflicting information
Some close dorades and any other openings. Hang dehumidifier bags and mildewcide.
Some stuff bronze wool in dorades and any other openings but leave things open

Mildewcide, air-permeable blockages in openings. We have hung dehumidifier bags and buckets in the past, but found they did not do anything except provide a pool of water to evaporate back in the air. Instead, we have placed a couple of these around the boat - drill a hole in the collection bucket, place them in sinks, and let the water drain overboard. However, you do need power while gone. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KTAF4I8...d_i=B01KTAF4I8

Some put cover over boat to protect from uv.
Some donít due to fear it will become partially detached flail in the wind and cause damage. Also concern it will limit ventilation.

Don't cover - particularly if in storm zone. UV is part of the boat's normal life and would be there if you were on it.

Some hire a service to check on the boat.
Some donít.

We don't. We know so many people who have come back to find their "professionally cared for boat" a complete mess. Batteries don't get charged, maintenance doesn't get done, etc. If you do want a service, I can recommend safe yachts grenada - Credentials

Some disconnect batteries.
Some just turn off inverter and depend on their solar and wind to keep thing charged.
(We have lifeline agms - solar and wind)

If shore power is available, we leave both it and the solar charging the batteries. The battery charging profiles are adjusted to remain in float, with a short re-absorption charge every 2 weeks. The absorption voltage is lowered below gassing voltage. This is when we had FLA batteries. Our procedure for LFP is different for reasons relating to battery type.

Some leave water tanks completely empty.
Some completely full.
All leave fuel full and holding empty.

Why one would leave the water tank full is beyond me. It would be a biologic disaster upon return. We leave our fuel at whatever level it is at when we haul, and have never had an issue. You are in the Caribe, holding tanks shouldn't even be a discussion, but empty for sure.

What do you do and why?

Mark

Minnewaska 04-02-2019 01:12 PM

Re: Putting her away
 
Mold would be my number one concern. If power was available, a dehumidifier draining down a sink would be my preference, but I suspect it's not an option. May not be safe to leave it plugged in for such a long unattended time anyway.

What if you sealed every opening and set off a chlorine dioxide bomb. It would be inhospitable down below, but easily vented out, upon return.

I would be inclined to blow out the fresh water lines, just like winter, and bleach shock when I return.

Batteries on solar would be ideal.

Don't see much need to cover. I'm sure you're going to strip sails and canvas.

Stand anchoring for tropical storms is key. Grenada is not immune, just less likely.

outbound 04-05-2019 07:18 PM

Re: Putting her away
 
So have
Mildewcide
Water absorpers for spaces that canít be left open
Bronze wool to place in through hulls
Plastic mosquito screen to place inside dorades cowlings
Supplies to pickle watermaker.
Supplies to change oil in engine and generator before layup.
Zincs
Cordage for messagers when running rigging is removed

What did I forget to bring back from the states?

Minnewaska 04-06-2019 07:01 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
Do you get any bilge water from rain? Our keel stepped mast, with 70ft furling slot will put 2-3 gallons in the bilge from one good storm. I pull a thru hull near the base of the mast, to allow drainage. May not be an issue, but I would want any potentially collected water to find itís way out.

Which mildewcide are you using? I think the dilemma is whether it will be effective, if there remains airflow. For winter here, I put 8 Damp Rid buckets around and collect 0.75 gallon of water over our relatively dry winter. One would think theyíll fill quickly there. I know someone who swears they just draw in more moisture to replace anyway. Not sure. We also put kanberra gel around, in open containers. I buy the 24oz refill bag and deploy it all for being on the hard. You donít need their individual containers. However, I would prefer something more certain and aggressive down there.

While you plan to put to sleep, weíre knee deep in commissioning. Been aboard since Tues. Always a ton of work. In and out. All the best in laying up.

chef2sail 04-06-2019 07:30 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outbound (Post 2051594058)
So have
Mildewcide
Water absorpers for spaces that canít be left open
Bronze wool to place in through hulls
Plastic mosquito screen to place inside dorades cowlings
Supplies to pickle watermaker.
Supplies to change oil in engine and generator before layup.
Zincs
Cordage for messagers when running rigging is removed

What did I forget to bring back from the states?

Kannabera Gell

SanderO 04-06-2019 08:32 AM

Re: Putting her away
 
If you were storing on the hard in the summer and making regular visits to the boat... what measures would you take?


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