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Re: Roller Furling issue

Assuming that the furling line is actually long enough in the first place, this really is a no brainer. There are two easy ways to do this safely at the dock.
1) Detach the jib sheets from the clew of the jib, wrap the clew of the jib around the jib as tight as you can and hold it wrapped with a sail tie and then wrap the jib sheets 4-5 times around the sail and connect the sheet back onto the sail. OR
2) If it is difficult to disconnect the jib from the jib sheets, simply un-reeve the jib sheets from the blocks and bring the whole coiled jibsheets forward to the jib with the sheets still attached to the sail. Wrap them around the jib so that first the clew of the jib is wrapped tightly around the rest of the jib, and then take maybe 3-5 extra wraps before running the jib sheets back through the blocks to the cockpit.

Both are less than a 10 minute job, and frankly are very easy to do.

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Both methods mentioned above work.

If leaving boat for a time...put a sail tie around furled jib
I thought I was the only one paranoid enough to do this .
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I thought I was the only one paranoid enough to do this .
You are not the only one......I typically put a sail tie around the jib even if I am only on the anchor over-night. I typically take the sail off the furler, flake it, and store it below if I am not going to use the boat during the week.

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Re: Roller Furling issue

Just wondering Jeff. Is it possible that you are putting more wear on the sail by removing and installing it a hundred times a year? Also the creases made by flaking?
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Just wondering Jeff. Is it possible that you are putting more wear on the sail by removing and installing it a hundred times a year? Also the creases made by flaking?
I had that discussion with the sailmaker. My mainsail is polyester and I leave that on the boom with a sail cover on it. My headsails are composite laminate since those last longer than polyester and have much wider wind ranges. With polyester, it does not matter all that much which you do as long as the sail has a UV cover. But with composite sail cloths is not quite a toss-up. The big destructors of modern sail cloths are sunlight, flogging, and heat. Carefully dropping and storing composites generally extend their life quite a bit.

Of course the life of a laminate is dependent on who makes it and how it was made, I got 11 years out of my last Quantum laminate sail doing that and only destroyed that sail by carrying it in 40 knot gusts, then having the sail partially unfurl near the head and flog itself for a couple hours. The sail was structurally intact and was usable for a couple months afterward, but one of the outer laminate mylar layer delaminated and the batten pockets were destroyed. That sail had perhaps 500 hours on it and a lot of heavy weather sailing.

By the same token I had a North laminated sail that delaminated in less than 3 years and less than 100 hours with no heavy air use.

But back to your question, if you look at race boats, which use much more expensive and vulnerable sails than I can afford, they often literally take the sails off the boat even if they will only be stored overnight, and that is done to preserve them and extend their useful lifespan.

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Just wondering Jeff. Is it possible that you are putting more wear on the sail by removing and installing it a hundred times a year? Also the creases made by flaking?
I think leaving a headsail on the furling permanently is probably far worse for a sail than taking it down and flaking it. Even with uv guard, the sail is still exposed to the elements. I am guessing most people dont even ease their halyard, so the luff is perpetually being stretched.

If you are in a situation where your furling fails for whatever reason, it should be a simple matter of pulling the sail out and dropping it to the deck. Then all you need to do is rotate the furling drum to wind more rope onto it.

If you can't do that, then just untie the sheets and wrap the sail around the forestay by hand, then spin it to wind more furling line onto the drum before retying the sheets.

This is really simple stuff...

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:With it in as far as it will go, in light or no wind, take the sheets forward, and walk them around the furler multiple times until the sail is fully in...effectively wrapping the sail around the furler
Quite right I missed the step of wrapping the sail first. But when the sail is wrapped, you still want another few turns on the drum.

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In light or no wind, walk the furling line forward and wrap that around the drum a few more times, then pull to wrap the sail.
Thatís when I roll the furler with the wrapped sail to get the extra turns. Reason being, I have a Furlex furler with a fully enclosed drum and wrapping the furling line around the drum is nigh on impossible.
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Both methods mentioned above work.

If leaving boat for a time...put a sail tie around furled jib
You are not.

Many people wrap the spin halyard around the jib, top to bottom, in the reverse direction, when major storms are expected. This is particularly helpful for blade jibs.
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Re: Roller Furling issue

Thanks to everyone for the advice. It was simpler than I'd thought and getting it done at the dock was good given today's weather.

As a keel boat novice, it is good to know there is a helpful community that responds so quickly.
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