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Propane system inspection

Hey gang,

I have a force 10 stove on my Columbia 39, and I am just getting around to thinking about using it, but I don't know the condition of the system (hoses, gauges, shutoff, etc etc)... and all things being equal, I probably need to have the entire system inspected before I start trying to use it.

Could anyone make a recommendation as to where I could look for an inspector that deals with propane systems in the Los Angeles area?

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Re: Propane system inspection

A marine-specific guy would be best, especially for overall design issues, best practices safety compliance for boats.

Ask at the yards in your area?

But any propane shop will have certified techs that can look at the fittings, test the bottle(s), teach you to inspect the joins and lines for leaks etc.
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A spray bottle with soapy water works wonders at finding leaks. Pressurize the system and spray hoses and fittings. Any leaks will blow bubbles. There should be a solenoid that clicks when turned on. This let's the gas through. It should be near the tanks in an airtight locker. If it doesn't work check fuses and replace as necessary. That's all there is to the system.

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Re: Propane system inspection

Here's how I would DIY.

Check the tank locker. It should vent overboard, as propane is heavier than air and will fill the bilge, if it doesn't have a path overboard.

Check the date stamped on the tank. If it's a steel tank, I think it can't be filled after 10 years (your local propane fill station will tell you). Fill the tank or get a new one to fill.

Check the electric solenoid, which should be near the tank. Does it click on and off, when the breaker is activated.

Check all hose connections, by spraying soapy water. Same way you checked for a bicycle tire leak as a kid. Be sure the stove and oven knobs are off, open the tank valve, open the solenoid and spray every connection, from the tank to the stove, to check for bubbles. If you find any, turn the gas off, at the tank, and correct.

Once the above all check out, open up the tank and solenoid and attempt to light the stove. It may take a while, if air needs to be purged out of the lines. I use a BBQ butane lighter, as it's hard to know if the electric spark button on most stoves is working. Ventilate the boat well. Run the gas for a few seconds. If it doesn't light, stop and wait a few more for the gas to ventilate, then repeat. On most propane stoves, you need to turn the knob to a start position, then hold a button or knob down to override the thermocouple safety, to allow the gas to run. This safety will close the burner, when cold, so if the flame goes out, it theoretically keeps the boat from filling with gas. Very theoretical. Keep an eye on all open flames aboard. Once lit, hold this botton or knob for a few more seconds to allow the thermocouple to warm up. Then let go and the burner should stay lit.

Once you have all the burners lit, go over and shut off the solenoid breaker and watch the flame go out to know the solenoid works. Then shut off the burner knobs.

The only thing I suspect a DIY would miss is whether fitting and hoses, etc, were up to proper code.

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Re: Propane system inspection

Great info by Minnewaska above. It's not very difficult. Only thing I would add is check the hose along its entire length. My current boat is the first I've had with propane. I found a situation where the hose came through a bulkhead and there wasn't proper support and chafe protection. Hose had been rubbing for years on the bulkhead and had a deep groove in it. If I hadn't replaced the hose and fixed the issue, this could have been serious.
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Re: Propane system inspection

IMO flex hose should be replaced on a schedule, not waiting for visible issues to appear.
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IMO flex hose should be replaced on a schedule, not waiting for visible issues to appear.
Logical, but what schedule would one follow? I've not seen one published.


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Re: Propane system inspection

I have no flex hose... all propane plumbing is shields reinforced rubber hose.

Do not leave a cooker which has a flame on unattended!

Might want to get at Xintex S2a gas sensor, alarm and solenoid switch. USE it and don't leave the solenoid open when you are not cooking!

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Re: Propane system inspection

By flex hose I mean anything with rubber, just not counting black pipe or copper.

Annually would be very conservative.

Every five years would be too long.

Otherwise, up to you
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By flex hose I mean anything with rubber, just not counting black pipe or copper.

Annually would be very conservative.

Every five years would be too long.

Otherwise, up to you
I replaced the hose but nothing like the intervals you mention.

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