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Re: Hit a rock with chartered boat in Sardinia

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Modern chartering sounds extremely dangerous to your wallet
The biggest risk is the dinghy. I don't recall much coverage for it at all. If it is stolen, it will ruin your vacation.


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My recollection is that dinghies are covered by some charter companies, provided that they are locked with a chain or cable - or at least, I have heard people being told that they will be liable unless they bring the severed cable with the locked padlock still in it.....
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Re: Hit a rock with chartered boat in Sardinia

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My recollection is that dinghies are covered by some charter companies, provided that they are locked with a chain or cable - or at least, I have heard people being told that they will be liable unless they bring the severed cable with the locked padlock still in it.....
Thats laying the opener on top of the can of worms...and just waiting
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Modern chartering sounds extremely dangerous to your wallet
Situations like this are why we always charter with a Captain and crew/cook. I like having someone with the important "local knowledge" of what and what can not be done. Where we can and can not go. No stress for me, no financial liability just sitting back and enjoying the cruise.

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Situations like this are why we always charter with a Captain and crew/cook. I like having someone with the important "local knowledge" of what and what can not be done. Where we can and can not go. No stress for me, no financial liability just sitting back and enjoying the cruise.
Not for me, but I get it.

Do you ever take the helm? If so, I'm not sure you fully pass along liability in all jurisdictions. The boat may be insured, even the Captain. If you're not and hit that rock, the insurance company may then pursue whomever caused their loss, called subrogation.

Ultimately, we just don't want strangers aboard for our vacation. We do think about a stew/chef from time to time. Pretty cheap compared to restaurants, really. As much as we like to cook, it would be luxurious not to take the time, nor have to clean up.
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Not for me, but I get it.

Do you ever take the helm? If so, I'm not sure you fully pass along liability in all jurisdictions. The boat may be insured, even the Captain. If you're not and hit that rock, the insurance company may then pursue whomever caused their loss, called subrogation.

Ultimately, we just don't want strangers aboard for our vacation. We do think about a stew/chef from time to time. Pretty cheap compared to restaurants, really. As much as we like to cook, it would be luxurious not to take the time, nor have to clean up.
I spend enough time single handing my boat so I don't need to take the helm just for the experience. That's a kick for those who don't have their own boats. I would take the helm in an emergency or if the Captain asked. But, I'm not going to volunteer. I'd rather sit back with a cool drink looking for Dolphins, Whales etc...

I enjoy cooking on my own boat. But, having the cook on board for the charter is liberating. We can take showers and come on deck to enjoy some snacks and boat drinks while enjoying the sunset and we don't have to start cooking and as you mentioned there is no cleanup. We can spend the morning snorkeling and when we come on board lunch is ready. So nice!
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And that is why I would never charter my boat!
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I spend enough time single handing my boat so I don't need to take the helm just for the experience. That's a kick for those who don't have their own boats.....
Again, I get the point of view. However, I donít view our bareboating preference as wanting the experience. After tens of thousand of miles under the keel, thatís not what does it for me.

I chose sailing over power boating, because I enjoy having something to do, a challenge to overcome. Itís part of the pleasure. As a parallel, I can not stand sitting on a beach for more than 1 minute. If I never sat on a beach the rest of my life, that would be fine by me. However, if you want to have a bonfire, a party, play some volleyball, Iím all in for the mission. Mission oriented I guess. To each their own, no right or wrong.


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I chose sailing over power boating, because I enjoy having something to do, a challenge to overcome. Itís part of the pleasure. As a parallel, I can not stand sitting on a beach for more than 1 minute. If I never sat on a beach the rest of my life, that would be fine by me. However, if you want to have a bonfire, a party, play some volleyball, Iím all in for the mission. Mission oriented I guess. To each their own, no right or wrong.
Certainly understand and agree with sitting around on the beach. We also specifically tell the Captain no need to stop for shopping or the rum induced frivolity of beach bars. Our Mission is to snorkel along the nicest reefs in the areas we charter and do this two sometimes three times a day. This is where the local knowledge of the Captain comes in. Our usual plan is to have the Captain back the boat up to the reef, we jump off and he lays off with the boat. We snorkel until we have had enough and then signal the Captain who swings by with the boat to pick us up. Much easier, faster and less tension ( for me) than trying to anchor nearby and dingy over if we bare boated. This is what works for us.

Another concern besides the unfamiliarity of the waters and what happened to the OP. Is the unfamiliarity of the bareboat. We have been on charters where the engines water pump failed underway and another where the watermaker went kaput a few days into the charter. On a Captained charter it's not my problem. The Captains took care of both issues. The watermaker issue happened in the Maldives where the Captain had connections to get water from the Coca Cola factory at one of the islands. I was sucking down an ice cold beer while watching them fill the water tanks. For us the extra money spent for the crewed charter is worth it in the long run. Certainly the OP may have seen his savings go poof.

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