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Re: Sunbrella + Awlgrip color match

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... maybe your canvas is getting 12 months a year of Florida sun.
Worse than that: a couple years in Mexico and otherwise in northern California. The dodger window covers, which were stored below for at least the last 4 years, still look pretty good, so I bet you'll get plenty of life out of yours assuming you're not leaving it exposed off-season.
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Re: Sunbrella + Awlgrip color match

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My boat has a blue boot top and toast sunbrella canvas. The dodger and Bimini are one year old and the sail cover is 23 years old (washed and re-waterproofed last year). The hull is off white and the nonskid is a barely beige.

When we bought the boat it had spent 5-6 years in the Florida sun. The white sunbrella was toast (pun intended) and had to be replaced before we started our 1700 mile delivery trip to Mystic. The local canvas guy mentioned that white was not a good color from a longevity point-of-view and Pacific Blue was one of the best to combat UV degradation. Toast was sort of middle of the road in that regard, but we like it and went with it.
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M-m-mm. That looks great. I do love the toast color, so classic, especially on a boat with dark topsides. It's also great in that, unlike I've heard about dark colors in a dodger or bimini, it won't turn the cockpit into an oven in hot weather. I would go with toast or linen on my boat, but the Niagara 35 has such chubby topsides that I want a little more contrast. And since I'm doing my own canvas (except genoa cover), a darker color will better hide the sins of this amateur.
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Re: Sunbrella + Awlgrip color match

My wife has done all our car as with a Sailrite machine we purchased over 18 years ago. The main thing is to get good thread...V92 preferably, use a #18 needLe

We use Strata glass with great 10 year results . Strong YYK zippers with pulls help.

Sailrite has some awesome videos if you are a beginner or experienced,.

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If you need color help... hire an interior designer :-). Seriously... open your eyes and see what other owners have done and pick something which looks good to you!

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Re: Sunbrella + Awlgrip color match

Just something to think about, not selling it to you. White Stamoid is durable, extremely light weight, won't shrink, won't fade, won't heat the cockpit and would match your decks permanently. Not sure it's the look you want, so I take no offense if it sounds bad to you.

If you end up going this route, be sure the canvas shop is familiar with using it. They can't use the same large needle they use for Sunbrella, or rain will leak through the stitching.


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We use Strata glass with great 10 year results . Strong YYK zippers with pulls help.
I was debating Strata vs ordinary 40 gauge vinyl, but now leaning toward trying Strata. I did a Sailrite dodger kit > 10 years ago (back when the skin + stainless frame were one package at <$700!), and while I was pretty proud of how the canvas turned out, the thin gauge vinyl windows gave it a flimsy finish. When I see a dodger that I'm impressed with it's usually because the windows look almost like real glass. I assume that's Strataglass.
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I was debating Strata vs ordinary 40 gauge vinyl, but now leaning toward trying Strata. I did a Sailrite dodger kit > 10 years ago (back when the skin + stainless frame were one package at <$700!), and while I was pretty proud of how the canvas turned out, the thin gauge vinyl windows gave it a flimsy finish. When I see a dodger that I'm impressed with it's usually because the windows look almost like real glass. I assume that's Strataglass.
So many different reasons for using strata. Clarity, durability, ease to work with, somewhat scratch resistant, somewhat flexibility. There are many other types of glass. Since you need the dodger to last 10 years we’ve used Strat 40 with excellent results. We use 1inch sumbrella binding tape to make the “ glass panel”. Fold the binding in half around the glass edge and Sew the glass directly to it with 1/2 inch on either side.

The advantage To doing this is one neater, easier to fit into other canvass, if it ever needs replaced you only have to pull the threads of the panel from the whole dodger to remove the glass and substitute with a new glass panel.

I would think the whole project through carefully and look how dodgers on done on different boats. They all have differences.

We wanted to make it so we had huge ventilation, not just a center panel window. Chesapeake is too hot. So we made an upper Bimini and attached panels using YYX zippers. Lots of people going to hard dodger tops with the same now. Top attachment to Bimini is zipper, bottom attachment to boat are snaps to screwed in snap base.

We literally can take all the side panels away with 100% air flow


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And who knew there was a "travel lift blue"!?
Probably the most common color of blue for boats, as seen on any boat who has ever been hauled by a travel lift.

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I was debating Strata vs ordinary 40 gauge vinyl, but now leaning toward trying Strata.
We've had two dodgers made with Strataglass, and one made with O'Sea. The O'Sea was superior in every way - particularly if you need it to flex when opening a panel or similar. https://www.sailrite.com/Comparing-O...ataglass-Vinyl

If you can use more rigid windows, consider using Makrolon.

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