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Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

Need to redo all the teak on the outside I was wondering if you all have had experience with Cetol or Shooner #96.Can provide advice, preferences ,ease of use and most important which one last the longest. Thanks!!

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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

I've been using Cetol for a number of years. I typically apply three coats of the color and at least 2 coats of Gloss. If you don't let it go too long you can touch up with Gloss. Depending where it is, and how much exposure I can get several years. My companion way hatches and cockpit combings last a long time because they are shaded. Toe Rails and Handrails need more attention.
You don't have to sand between coats, just let them dry overnight. Then wipe them down, to get rid of any dirt or dust before a new coat goes on, I'll use mico-fiber and a tack cloth.

Clearly the preparation is the most time consuming for any product. I've used a two step acid neutralizer to clean and brighten the teak in the past before coating. I use cabinet scrapers to remove the old stuff rather than sand.

I've used the teak color in the past, but I may try the Light on my toe rails and handrails this season as they are both due, after about 5 or 6 years without any maintenance ( I got lazy)
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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

I've used Cetol and hated it. Many like it, but I didn't. Looks fake to me. Mine flaked off over a number of years. Yuk.

I've used real varnish many times, although not the Interlux brand, including currently on our cockpit table. It's the hardest to apply, because of the number of coats required, the dry time between and the conditions required to cure properly. It looks the nicest, IMO. It's also reasonably repairable too, which is a consideration. My cockpit table took 10 coats, each needed 24 hrs of curing.

I used 2 part Perfection Plus once. It's hard as nails. So hard that when I tried to get it back off, it was a nightmare.

My fav shortcut is Bristol Finish. I think it looks most like real varnish. It's a two part curing varnish that recoats in about an hour and can build a good finish in 4 coats.
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The Original Cetol ( dark amber) was pretty ugly! and it almost looks orange and paint like, hiding the wood grain. The newer colors are a little nicer in my experience.
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If e used Cetol with good results. Very similar application techniques as Tempest


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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

I really like that deep, rich look that varnish gives properly prepared wood and wouldn't trade that for any other finish. Yeah, it's a lot of hard work to get it up to yacht quality, and you have to sand between coats, but it lends an air of class and tradition to any boat. I prefer Captain's varnish (yes, ten coats if you want that deep, rich finish) after an initial coat or two of clear wood sealer. Then it's just a coat or so a year to maintain.
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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

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I really like that deep, rich look that varnish gives properly prepared wood and wouldn't trade that for any other finish. Yeah, it's a lot of hard work to get it up to yacht quality, and you have to sand between coats, but it lends an air of class and tradition to any boat. I prefer Captain's varnish (yes, ten coats if you want that deep, rich finish) after an initial coat or two of clear wood sealer. Then it's just a coat or so a year to maintain.
Iím with Capta on real varnish. Iíve had teak on my boats for the past 49 years and have used a variety of products. I gave Cetol a good run of about 15 years, but it wasnít worth the work for a cheesy look. For the past 10 years Iíve used Epifanes gloss for the exterior teak and learned the hard way that you have to do the maintenance coats every year. Going for 2 years is cheating.
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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

No experience yet but I am embarking on finishing the mahogany companionway board I just made. Did a ton of research and this is my plan.

Sand to 220 grit. Raise grain and sand 400 grit SiC. Do this twice.
Stain with water soluble aniline dye. Lightly sand raised grain with 400 grit SiC.

The above is done. Next...

Make penetrating epoxy using West 105 resin and 207 clear hardener. Thin with denatured alcohol to water consistency.
Two coats of this.
Probably 2 coats epoxy unthinned. More coats if needed.
UV protection topcoats (hopefully 2 coats) Man of War gloss.

This should leave me with a level of protection that lasts many years with occasional renewal by removing and reapplying the varnish.
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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

practical sailor just finished a multiyear study. hopefully this link works....

https://www.practical-sailor.com/boa...oatRestoration
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Re: Cetol or Shooner #96 please..... Advice

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