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Aggressive non-skid and line wear

I'm planning to redo the non-skid on my coachtop and decks in the next month or two. Currently it's just a semi-flat paint over a bumpy pattern on the fiberglass, which seems to work fine. As an experiment, I did a hatch cover with Pettit EZDecks, and while the very rough surface seems like a good grip for bare feet, it also seems like it would quickly tear up my jib sheets and other lines that drag across it. Is this an issue with these aggressive textures, or am I over-thinking it? I also worry about kneeling on bare knees on those surfaces.

I guess an obvious related question would be if anyone has a favorite non-skid to recommend. I'm considering just using a flattened paint like Pettit EZPoxy (already used for everything else above the rubrail) over the existing textured non-skid areas. Context: budget minded, not a ton of time (or skill) on my hands, but willing to spend money on a decent and easy to use product that won't burn my lungs or give me cancer.
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Re: Aggressive non-skid and line wear

Personally, I say the more grip the better. My factory non-skid is pretty aggressive and I like it. For sure, it's not comfortable to kneel on and shouldn't be, IMO. This may be a bit subjective, because any amount of kneeling, without kneepads, is now uncomfortable for me.

I wouldn't think your deck's non-skid would come in contact with a sheet or line under load, where chafe might become a problem. I don't think having the lazy sheets, for example, drag across the deck is an issue at all.

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Re: Aggressive non-skid and line wear

OEM scored/pyramid pattern is not very good. And with lousy soles on your shoes it can be like an ice skating rink. Best footing is bare feet and I ALWAYS hold on to something... especially since my balance has been compromised.

I don't go forward much at all when the boat's heeled. I do to anchor/moor and tie to the fuel dock and the remove sail cover and put it on... and do do the cruising chute (rare).

Better non skid would be nice... but I can live without it given how I am using the boat and sailing.

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Re: Aggressive non-skid and line wear

Over the years I've seen some pretty aggressive non-skid on boats and my first thought is how much damage would I do to myself if I fell on it.
Since I never (except if its cold) wear shoes or boots when onboard, it also looks very hard on the feet.
When I redid the decks on my 65' gaffer, I covered the fir decks with rolled on neoprene/hypalon (like on your inflatable but w/o the cloth) then covered crushed walnut shells with the last two layers. I used a flour sifter to insure there were no big pieces in the non-skid. The walnut shells are a preferred non-skid material because it won't absorb moisture and it can be easily sanded. This worked out to be a fantastic deck covering and non-skid. It was also a very good insulation barrier against the tropical heat and very easy to patch.

At the time, this was the method for ramps in high traffic areas like sports stadiums, etc. I don't know that the neoprene/hypalon would work very well on fiberglass, but the walnut shells (easily purchased) sprinkled in a boat paint could be superior to other products available, and much cheaper.

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Re: Aggressive non-skid and line wear

google Rough Coat - a tan epoxy paint with grit already in it (or use ground walnut shell, available in different 'grits'
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Re: Aggressive non-skid and line wear

I can't see non skid coatings being a real issue on sheets, because they arent typically being dragged hard against the deck. Perhaps if you have a really aggressive coating on your deck and your sheets have a soft, loose jacket you might see a few pulls in the fibers of the jacket. (Kind of of like when cheap doublebraid dock lines snag splinters on a dock.)

As an old foredeck guy I believe working areas of the deck should have good grip. Certainly aggressive non skid can be hard on the knees, and on pants when sitting on the rail, but that the price you pay for being surefooted when it counts.

Personally I NEVER sail barefoot, except in dinghies of course. Good sailing shoes will give you better grip than bare feet AND protect your feet from stubbing on cleats and gouging on the edges of tracks. (Maybe it's because my feet are too soft?)
It is a personal preference, and maybe cruising is easier on bare feet than racing? There are entire threads dedicated to discussion about sailing shoes!

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I usually have fewer bruises and cuts coming back to the cockpit when wearing siped sandals.
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Personally I NEVER sail barefoot, except in dinghies of course. Good sailing shoes will give you better grip than bare feet AND protect your feet from stubbing on cleats and gouging on the edges of tracks. Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk
I've been sailing this boat offshore and inter island for around 10 years and if my situational awareness is so poor that I'm still stubbing my feet on cleats and gouging on them on the edges of tracks, I've probably got bigger problems than a pair of shoes will cure. lol
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