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Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

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I am looking to make a new sail cover and bimini for my Catalina 30, and due to the odd light brown shade of the gel coat I am thinking the burgundy top notch 9 fabric would match the best. Maybe even the cardinal red. Anyways I have heard that these colors fade pretty badly and not in a good way, but I haven't been able to find many first hand accounts. The boat is in the great lakes so they are only exposed half the year. I've heard spraying with 303 fabric guard helps with this? Does anyone have any experience with these colors, or sunbrella equivalents?

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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

The red end of the spectrum fades first
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The red end of the spectrum fades first
Would the burgundy be more resistant to that than a regular red?
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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

Maybe make them so they can be folded up after each sail. Make a sacrificial cover. Obviously, take them down when on-the-hard.

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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

top notch 9 is a polyester fabric. Most of the outdoor Sunbrella fabrics are Acrylic. polyester will never last as long in the sun as a good acrylic. all red will fade first. in my experience the sunbrella burgundy tweed lasts the longest of the red fabrics. because it has both burgundy and black fibers.You don't save any money with polyesters in the long run.
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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

I checked one place for this fabric, its priced higher than Sunbrella... Do you consider it better? What led you to choose this over tried and true Sunbrella
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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

Top Notch is an excellent solution dyed polyester for his needs.
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Maybe make them so they can be folded up after each sail. Make a sacrificial cover. Obviously, take them down when on-the-hard.
I would like to use the existing frame and folding is not an option. A sacrificial cover might work, but I'm not sure I like the idea of the extra work for that.

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top notch 9 is a polyester fabric. Most of the outdoor Sunbrella fabrics are Acrylic. polyester will never last as long in the sun as a good acrylic. all red will fade first. in my experience the sunbrella burgundy tweed lasts the longest of the red fabrics. because it has both burgundy and black fibers.You don't save any money with polyesters in the long run.
So it sounds like the extra cost for sunbrella is worth it then. Do you mean the "Dubonnet Tweed"? That color looks pretty good, and is cheaper than the sunbrella regular burgundy. Does 303 fabric guard help with the fading? My other choice was a navy blue, but I'm not sure how well that would go with the brown color of the boat.

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I checked one place for this fabric, its priced higher than Sunbrella... Do you consider it better? What led you to choose this over tried and true Sunbrella
On sailrite the top notch 9 is about $10 a yard cheaper
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Top Notch is an excellent solution dyed polyester for his needs.
Ok or maybe the top notch burgundy is a good option due to being $10 a yard cheaper? Looks similar to the Sunbrella Dubonnet Tweed except the top notch seems to be black dominant, which might be better in the fading regard?
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Re: Burgundy/Red Top Notch 9 Fading?

So after some comparative shopping I have found the sunbrella Dubonnet Tweed for the same price as the top notch, so looks like sunbrella will be the best choice here.
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