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Barient 17 Disassembly

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I have a Barient 17, single speed self-tailing winch that's running rough. I found the exploded view and instructions for it but as usual . . . they are wrong. The diagram clearly shows screws holding the column to the base but they are simply not there. Can anybody help a brothah out? I can find no pins, screws circlips, e-clips, e-rings or set screws. At absolutely best, this is an irresponsible design. Jess sayin'.
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

the nut on top should have to holes for a special pin wrench
https://l-36.com/winches_pages.php?winch=mod17.htm
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

Way past that part. I mean internally. Note at the base of the column, there are no screws holding the base on. There is definitely a seam there, but no mechanical fastening.
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

I had an old pair of Barients long ago, and I couldn't figure out how to disassemble that part, so I set it in a container with a solvent overnight, then brushed it to get it clean, then lubricated it.

One of mine worked well, but one still growled, and I had difficulty finding parts, so I replaced them with a new pair of Lewmars that I found on sale at a good price. It hurt to spend that much, but it made the boat a pleasure to sail.
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

Where are the needle bearing collars that ride on the column? Are they still in the Hub? If so they could just be stuck because of old dirty grease. Sometimes folks put too much grease on these bearings and they will stick. Have you looked at the Youtube video of "How to Service Primary Winches (Barient 28) I know that the 28's are 2 speed but the process should be much the same.
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

Those are already removed. The thing is that if there is no way to fastened these parts together, the winch is unsafe, it's not attached to the boat. So that leads me to believe they are secured together somehow . . . but how?????
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

Not sure exactly what you mean but it sounds like you're saying the caphead screws that hold the column to the base are missing?
The base of your column has holes for the screws, is this what you're talking about? When I get to my office computer I'll post the Diagram that I found for the Barient 17 to see if it matches. Barient winches are not poorly designed, for the most part if taken care of and serviced the're pretty bullet proof.
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Take a look at the base of the post. There are no screws, screw heads or holes for screws, other than those used to bolt the assembly to the cabin. The bronze halves act like they’re fused but if they were, there would be no way of ever replacing the inner pawls. The Barient exploded view I have clearly shows four screws holding the post to the base
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

That piece is cast. I'ts one piece. It's not supposed to come apart. Look closely at the diagram. Is this not what your winch looks like?
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Re: Barient 17 Disassembly

Did you take the entire base off the boat? If that's the case then yes you have to separate the base from the column base. What happens is that you have corrosion between the two parts that essentially welds them together. The video that I referenced goes into how to deal with that. If the base and column base are fused, the base would be solid if you turn the column upside down. You have to get that bottom piece on the diagram free from the column. I suggest you do what sailorman suggested and soak the thing in solvent for a few days then try heating and cooling along with some serious elbow grease to see if you can get it free.
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