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Job halyard binding on forestay

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My Job Halyard appears to be binging on the forestay and I cannot unfurl my jib sail full without going up to the roller furling and muscleing it by hand.

I took a picture through the binoculars and you can see that the halyard is severely chafed.

Any ideas how I fix this?
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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

Does it have a pennant.

Usually caused by the wrong angle.


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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

looks like halyard wrap because the halyard needs to be angled to the mast through a fairlead before it goes straight up the mast. you can also try a pendent between the tack of the sail and the stem fitting to raise the sail so the halyard above the furler is shorter and it should not wrap around the forestay.
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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

no I dont think it has a pennant. Just the halyard attached to the top of the sail. Do I need a pennat with a swivel in it?
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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

So if I am going to put a fairlead on the mast, i would likely have to drill into the mast in order to screw the fairlead into it?
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you can also try a pendent between the tack of the sail and the stem fitting to raise the sail so the halyard above the furler is shorter and it should not wrap around the forestay.
But this would be a much simpler method, just raise the sail so halyard doesn't wrap, cut that buggered up portion off first. Just a simple piece of rope will raise the foot increasing halyard angle and shortening it as OB suggested.

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So if I am going to put a fairlead on the mast, i would likely have to drill into the mast in order to screw the fairlead into it?
Is why I asked about the pennant. Your wrap is caused by the angle of the swivel. Pennant would correct that.

First a would release the tension a little on the jib halyard. That may be enough to correct it. If not pennant.

This is a very common thing to happen


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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

How long has the system been in use and has it been working fine til now?

Are you trying to furl it WITHOUT halyard tension, IMHO lack of tension increases the tendency to wrap.

I dont think raising the head of the sail changes the angle of the halyard to the swivel, although if you bring the swivel right up to the masthead, the halyard cant wrap but you also cant adjust luff tension. What I would expect to see in the picture is a halyard retainer on the mast six inches or so below the masthead, which is how my halyard is setup. Causes the halyard to pull aft from the swivel, giving it an open angle to the forestay. Put 'halyard retainer' into Google, it is a specific piece of gear.

Looking back at you picture I would suspect your problem is that you had a retainer but it has detached from the mast and just needs replacement. A hint is the frayed section of the halyard, which is a typical result from a halyard retainer.

In fact I attach my jib shackle with a halyard hitch so that every other year I can cut a foot off the jib halyard just to remove this fraying.

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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

I am furling it with tension on the halyward. I will try furling it with less tension and see if that fixes it. The thing is, that it seems to be intermittent. Sometimes I can get the sail out no problem but other times I cannot. Lately it has been not working so maybe that's because it had a halyard restrained on it but it was not funcitoning properly and has now broken off.

I guess if the reduced tension on the halyard doesnt work then I need to get up the mast and install a halyard restrainer. Makes sense that it was maybe on there before due to so much chafe thats on the halyard in the picture. Thanks for the help guys. Any other ideas I'm all ears!
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Re: Job halyard binding on forestay

The halyard should have at least 7 degrees with the forestay. The easiest way is to add a small piece of rpoe to the head of the sail. You knot the head of the sail to the rope and attach the other end to the swivel. This will decrease the length of halyard from swivel to the mast, increase the angle and solve your problem.
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