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What is this? Cracks in gel coat leaking a brown dry goop!

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#1 ·
I've got a few cracks in my gelcoat I thought I took care of by careful sanding, gel coat replacement, then painting.

When I got this boat, there was a tarp over it and the parts on each side I am talking about have been constantly covered, so this is odd.

Parts that are affected are both sides of the hull where the tarp was, 4 " below hull/deck joint.

There are some cracks that re-appeared and they slowly seep this brown/tan stuff that feels kinda oily but slightly gummy and sticky. It smells like some sort of wood oil gone bad.

I am totally stumped, I've searched all over, and I have no idea how to address this. It is not a beauty thing, as it takes weeks to grow even a small dab of it less than the tip of a ball point pen, but is there some deeper hidden problem that I should take care of now?

The marine survey I had done for insurance showed "reletively dry readings" on the hull. It's not a saturated balsa core leaking some wicked ooze, and I should sell the boat before I have to rebuild the entire hull is it?

Thanks,

Robert
 
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#5 ·
is that

the deck to hull overlap? It sounds from what your saying that the core is rotting and the repair was on the surface only. When it heats up in the sun the ooze is the water and rotted core "outgas" seeping out the cracks or finding its own way out by making blisters. when it's cold it freezes and expands also. The bad core has to be dried, epoxy saturatrated and or replaced.

More information about the boat would be helpful because others may own that same boat and know what your facing in fixing it. Don't despair I'm sure it's very repairable. But I know a guy that's looking for a boat cheap! Possibly your overreacting?

good luck!
 
#6 ·
Sounds like core material rotting...
 
#7 ·
Well, it is my favorite boat for sure. I'll keep collecting diagnosis and let you guys know what happens through this thread as I get into repairing it. It dies appear on both sides, exactly where the tarp was touching the hull, and I think it also may have something to do with saturation of the fiberglass since there were gelcoat cracks there too.
 
#8 ·
When styrene dissolves it leaches out in a dark brown colour. Rotten core will not ooze until it is totally liquid, and if it's balsa, it would probably be black by then.

If I am reading correctly, this is in an area that you worked on. I'd venture that something that you used is not compatible with the resins that the boat was made of, hence it is dissolving OR the tarp has somehow funneled enough water into the crack, that the styrene has dissolved and is leaching now.

It might be a good idea to drill a hole in there so you can see what has happened. If you don't want to take such a big step, try running an electronic stud finder along it and see if you get any blips, which can identify very significant differences in density.
 
#9 ·
If the core was wet wouldn't you here thuds when struck with the back of a screw driver. I would sound out the portions where there are cracks. If you get a dull response then that means the core is wet there and needs to be taken care of.
 
#10 ·
I worked on a boat will similar, it was the blue tarp heating, cooling and without enough circulation, causes cracks to wick in water. Like was said, use a screwdriver or a rubber malet and test. Start from the bottom of the keel and work up the hull well far away for the area. When you get the area in question your ears will by that point will have a refernce to compare.
Tom
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#12 · (Edited)
Ok got down to working on this today. I got the starboard side sanded to the glass fiber mat, and then had my dad's friend come out and check the hull for "wetness" or whatever with that little box he used when he did the original pre-purchase survey.

He seems to think that the seeping is a resin that was not completely dried, and it was oozing from heat and gas. He mentioned that fiberglass sometimes is not hardened except for the outer coat. He also said that the wood is in fine shape, according to the through-hull piece I cut near that area not too many weeks back.

I should add that he said it was gas because the bubbles in the paint were dry inside, not containing an acid (eeek) or any of the resin in the bubbles either...

It has changed the ooze color from brown to a white, right before I sanded everything down.

I sealed off the area with plastic, added in a lot of dessicant to the sealed area, and now I need to find out how to replace the resin and gel coat I took off, and what product line to use. I've done body work on cars before, but I know that fiberglass needs special things.

I could use some help here... oh and I'll post some pictures when I get back down to work on it more.
 
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