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posted a link to a photo of thaty track over on sailrite's site in post #7.

btw, sailrite calls it awning track




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posted a link to a photo of thaty track over on sailrite's site in post #7.

btw, sailrite calls it awning track
the link was broken, but I just found it based on the name - thanks!
thats one reason its tough to find things - I never know what the accepted name is and keep searching for thingamadoo.
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To clarify - the guy that I am looking to hire to do the work is doing excellent work locally (he very well may be the best). The problem is - my boat is "special" and defies usual installation practices. So, this is where the issue is.

BTW, awning track probably won't work in this case because it has to be attached with provided 1/2" screws and the top thickness is less than 1/8".
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How does a dodger not interfere with a cabin top traveler ?
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posted a link to a photo of thaty track over on sailrite's site in post #7.

btw, sailrite calls it awning track
You mean this stuff that I posted earlier?




BTW Seth (the high end canvas guy I do some consulting work for) prefers to use the plastic awning track vs. the aluminum.

It bends with a heat gun and you don't damage the anodizing which leads to premature oxidation of the aluminum when you bend it. Bending anodized aluminum awning track can lead to premature anodizing failures..

He has a fair number of his dodgers that have done full circumnavigations every one using the plastic "awning track" or "luff strip" as he calls it.....


There are different types of awning track and they do not have to be installed using screws. On aluminum frame windows Seth will sometimes use aluminim pop rivets or monel pop rivets

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Halekai,

What is the normal method for attaching that plastic track to the coachroof/deck around the companionway seahood? Does it get screwed down, or is an adhesive used?


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I'd agree that the plastic track is probably better than the aluminum track since it can be bent to fit odd curves more easily than the aluminum.

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It is normally attached via screws, and bedded as any other deck hardware would be.




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What is the normal method for attaching that plastic track to the coachroof/deck around the companionway seahood? Does it get screwed down, or is an adhesive used?
Seth will drill, countersink, bed with Sikaflex 291 or 3M 4200 and then screw the into place. It's usually one fastener about every 4-6" depending upon the use the boat is intended to see.

The track can also do a nice job of hiding previous holes from poorly constructed dodgers plus it's totally hidden by a lapel under the dodger and you never see it nor is it exposed to UV. No visible fasteners is a big plus too.

The best part is you don't get or see fastener creases in your windows because the load is distributed evenly across the entire leading edge of the dodger and you are left with smooth crease free windows.

I've taken some big green water off my Mobile Marine Canvas Dodgers and never had one fail using the awning track...

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This isn't exactly on topic but....
On my last dodger there were little covers that snapped over the windows that we would remove when sailing.
This last time I decided to eliminate them and have the canvas guy make a cover for the entire dodger. It's easier to deal with than all the individual covers and it protects the cloth as well as the windows. I know thats not what you were talking about but I thought it was a good idea and have been happy with it.

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Glad you're keeping the windscreen. I've looked into fabricating a hardtop for my Rasmus, but I'm pretty happy with the soft top.
If you have to repower in the next few years (or weeks, you never know) the soft top pops off easily for engine haul out.
I've seen a picture on yachtworld of a Rasmus in Annapolis maybe; it has a hard dodger that stands independent of the windscreen. Looks functional.
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