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Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

I'm going to the local auto finish place today to buy some more Presta Ultra Cutting Cream. I also need some more Collinite 885. This place said they don't have it because it's marketed exclusively to marine stores, but that their 476s is exactly the same thing, just packaged differently and marketed to auto shops. Looking over Collinite's website, it does look like the two do have the same balance of properties:

http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uplo...orguide-16.pdf

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I think the 476s is sold in 9 oz and 18 oz cans, while 885 is sold in 12 oz cans.

I can't pull down their SDS online, but one blog says that the two SDSs are identical. However, that's not a guarantee that it's exactly the same because SDSs generally only disclose a range of ingredients, not the exact composition.

It auto place is only 5 minutes from my house, plus I'd like to do business with the little guy where possible. I also expect that automotive prices might be a little lower than West Marine, though I have not verified that.

Have any of you have side-by-side comparisons between these? (PDQ/Drew or MainSail?)

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Do not wax or buff awlgrip. Wash it. Don't scrub it either... if you scratch the surface, you're going to be screwed.
Okay, dumb question #100....How do you know if the hull has been to the awlgripped if you just got the boat and the owner prior to the one you purchased the boat from did the work?? It is spring and I want to know if I buff or not.....

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Okay, dumb question #100....How do you know if the hull has been to the awlgripped if you just got the boat and the owner prior to the one you purchased the boat from did the work?? It is spring and I want to know if I buff or not.....
Pretty choppy sentence, but I think you're asking how to test whether you have a polyester paint like Awlgrip or an acrylic paint like Awlcraft.

Find a less obvious spot, such as under the transom. Dampen a contrasting colored rag (white for dark colors, dark for white colors) with acetone and rub on that spot. Polyester paint will not color the rag, acrylic will. Don't rub so hard as to take the paint off.
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Pretty choppy sentence, but I think you're asking how to test whether you have a polyester paint like Awlgrip or an acrylic paint like Awlcraft.

Find a less obvious spot, such as under the transom. Dampen a contrasting colored rag (white for dark colors, dark for white colors) with acetone and rub on that spot. Polyester paint will not color the rag, acrylic will. Don't rub so hard as to take the paint off.
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I'm going to the local auto finish place today to buy some more Presta Ultra Cutting Cream. I also need some more Collinite 885. This place said they don't have it because it's marketed exclusively to marine stores, but that their 476s is exactly the same thing, just packaged differently and marketed to auto shops. Looking over Collinite's website, it does look like the two do have the same balance of properties:

http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uplo...orguide-16.pdf

http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uplo...orguide-16.pdf

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I think the 476s is sold in 9 oz and 18 oz cans, while 885 is sold in 12 oz cans.

I can't pull down their SDS online, but one blog says that the two SDSs are identical. However, that's not a guarantee that it's exactly the same because SDSs generally only disclose a range of ingredients, not the exact composition.

It auto place is only 5 minutes from my house, plus I'd like to do business with the little guy where possible. I also expect that automotive prices might be a little lower than West Marine, though I have not verified that.

Have any of you have side-by-side comparisons between these? (PDQ/Drew or MainSail?)
Why over think it? Why mess with a proven thing
I just finished waxing with Collinite 885 and following Mainsails program as I do every time I wax

Jamestown, and auto wash have it at $20 with Defender ..no tax..free shipping at $18. How much cheaper will you find it..pennies? I keep a supply of this in my dock box. Also have found "deals" on it in bins at the Annapolis Boat Show" where I have gotten it for $10 a can. It's great stuff . I don't need a side by side comparison over a proven product. Why risk it...it's just wax.

https://www.autowashonline.com/defau...code=COL%20885
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...t.do?pid=11650
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I purchased a gallon of each of the Presta products in 2010. I use the Ultra Chroma each spring to restore the brilliant sheen.
7 years later I find the product becoming watered down - spraying all over. Spoke with Presta this morning and they said the shelf life is only about two years.
Long story short, I poured the product into a bucket - wiped it onto the hull with a wash cloth - the results are just as excellent as in 2010 - and without any splatter.

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Tried my first full blown compound and polish today, we were both (me and the materials) too hot, baked by the sun and drying out too soon, so Im not sure I learned the things I needed to learn but it looks better than before by far. The body shop guys of old would tell you not to polish outside on a hot day. I'll haul earlier next year.
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Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Be sure you have a spray bottle with lots of water. Spray it on every few minutes.
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Thanks, We both drank a lot of water.
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I went back a read the 3m polish likes to wiped down with denatured alcohol before waxing. I will try this.
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