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Wilcox crittenden head

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i need help tring to identify this wilcox and crittenden head, i just bought it and it needs to be rebuilt, seals and gaskets i was told its 1930 or so but not shure, i have tryed looking it up on google and i never find the same one as my one has a foot pedal, the markings on the bronze main body say type n, any help would be great on the model or where i gan get a rebuild kit. thanks in advance kieran
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Have you checked with Thetford Marine - they sell some W&C toilets under their own name. Don't know about parts for an older toilet like this,, but they may be same for different models. That is a wonderful looking piece of kit. Hope you can get it working again.

After the refit we have decided to sell Ainia. We want something smaller that would be could for the light summer winds of Lake Ontario, although we plan to spend at least a couple of winters in the Caribbean before heading north.
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Checked with thetford and they need to know the model, i told them it was a type n and they had no clue, ya i think its worth saving cause i dont like the look of the plastic heads
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That old WC head is worth preserving if you can.
I doubt that you will be able to get a 'service kit' that is purposely made for it though.
I've installed a few service kits and I'd guess that if you can get a service kit for the oldest WC head they have that you might be able to use many of the parts. Some parts will not work because of the foot pump but I'd say it is worth a shot.
Mostly those kits consist of:
- a joker valve (could likely be made to work with your old unit)
- a few rubber parts that serve as valves or bushings
- a few springs or odd shaped metal parts.
You could probably make your own service kit if you knew what shape/size parts you need with the exception of the joker valve which is purpose made and looks a bit like the mouthpiece of a Clarinet but made of rubber.

Another brilliant idea I had is to post the pics of your old WC head over at Peggy Hall's forum (she is the "Head Mistress" and knows her heads): The Head Mistress - SailboatOwners.com
She wrote a book about heads and boat odors. The book is pretty good too, I have it. It might help you understand some of the ways each part is supposed to function. I'll bet you could figure some of this out for yourself if you took it apart, piece by piece too.
Good luck.
Beautiful old head, worth saving, if you can.

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Looks like an original wilcox crittenden imperial....

but with chrome parts.

IMHO I would not use it as it will bankrupt you in rebuild kits (if they don't run out).

I would offer it for sale on a traditional boat forum or similar, or to Thetford as a museum piece (eve though I doubt that they care). They certainly would not like the comparison between your heads and their ComfortMate 12 Volt Electric Marine Toilet.

Use any money to buy a Lavac.

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Try asking on the WoodenBoat Forum, old guys with old boats.
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That's a real throne, suitable for Queen Victoria, but I think I agree with Gtod25.

I think the only reason to keep it would be for its novelty value - it certainly looks classy and would be a real conversation piece.

It reminds me very much of Blake heads from years ago - they were very deluxe and infinitely rebuildable - you could even send them back to the factory for a full remanufacturing process but it cost about 1/2 of what a vacuflush or electric head costs IIRC.

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