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Are you a dock person or a mooring person?

Currently I keep my Catalina 27 at a dock in a large, full service marina. However, I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a new boat about 34ft. Since I sail on the relatively deep LI Sound and also since I'm getting to be religious about trimming for speed, I'd much prefer a deep keel.

Unfortunately, it seems that even the deepest slips in the marina won't be sufficient for a keel over 6 feet when the tides are the most extreme.

There is a yacht club that's next door which is all moorings. It's not fancy, but most of the members are "sailor's" sailors...many of the boats race, including a J105 that I crew on. It would also be a 2-3 grand cheaper.

I have to admit, I really enjoy the convenience of being docked (especially when the marina has a bar/restaurant right up the gangway). My truck is nearby and since I winter my boat on the hard there, I don't have to be present when myboat is towed to the lift to haul it out for the winter or put it in the water in the spring. On the downside, docking can be downright scary when the wind's screaming in the "wrong" direction, especially since I single hand most of the time. Sometimes, that "docking anxiety" as I call it, can spoil the end of a great sail.

Of course a mooring doesn't have that problem, though one is dependent on the launch. There's no electric to keep a fridge cool and repairs that would have me going back and forth to the hardware store would be a real pain. I still haven't figured out how I would winterize my boat on a mooring and then get it to the marina for haul out! And of course, I'd have to do all the things that being a member of a "yacht club" entails, you know like socializing with people who like sailing.....ok just kidding, there could be a worse group of people than sailors.
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Mooring

In Northport there is about 1000 something and while there are TWO clubs the majority are lone wolfs like myself

As far as the boat i have Willis marine step and store the mast ,powerwash the bottom and place it on the truck to go HOME

the truck thing gets more iffy as you get past 5' draft due to power-lines in neighborhoods and for friend with 7' draft is the only one i know that takes it home and it is difficult

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Mooring all the way....
Why do you prefer it?
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Why do you prefer it?
Safer in a storm (location dependent though), no dock rash, not a chip in the paint in 7 years, easy on easy off means I can be sailing in under 2 minutes, no annoying dock neighbors, boat is always pointing into the wind which means excellent cooling, Dorade vents actually work as they should, if I am on the boat in a storm the motion is far better than being beaten into a dock beam to, if a hurricane comes my marina won't force me to leave the dock etc. etc. etc...

If I was a live-aboard being at a dock would be a part of the deal but I would not enjoy it. I spend waaaaaaaay too much time in marinas I don't want my boat there too........

Marinas are often a love em or hate em deal in the North East.....

These two boats were at a local marina when a Nor' Easter hit. Our boat survived 100% unscathed, just as our mooring system is designed to deliver her after a storm......
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Privacy and the view of the Vanderbilt Mansion is not bad either

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Re: Are you a dock person or a mooring person?

In a marina where I live we would pay about US$650 a month for a slip for my boat so about US$7800 per annum. My swing mooring costs me about $180 per annum and $275 once every three years for maintenance. So from a financial point it's a no-brainer.

Motoring onto and off of a mooring in any weather is easier than motoring into a marina slip on a still, calm day. Sailing onto and off of a swing mooring is easy - into a slip not so much. The chances of damage however small to my boat whilst berthing or leaving is a big fat zero. Even my wife or daughter are totally comfortable doing it.

To trade the two above features to save a short dingy ride makes no sense to me. Going to the pub, meeting other members etc. holds no fascination for me, I generally have the people I want to socialise with on my boat or the boats on moorings around me.

In my new home (haven't moved there yet) we have a yacht club in a marina next door and I'm sure we'll become members, frequent the pub there and hopefully make new friends but there is no possible way that I'll take a slip in the marina.

But that's just me . . . . .
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Re: Are you a dock person or a mooring person?

My boats on a mooring and will always prefer a mooring (or anchor) when cruising. I like the way the boat swings with the wind and always enjoy a breeze. Plus I can always jump over the side for a swim when the waters are warm enough. I also like the privacy and don't have to smell the nearby dock mates exhaust as they try to figure whats wrong with their diesel. The there is the dock parties where some parent thinks it's a good charming to let their kids bring out the Karoke machine. I currently have two Engel refrigerators running 24/7 off of 250 watts of solar panels batteries are always topped up. Since you will be saving $1000 -$2000 over the dock costs. Why not let the marina the pulls your boat deal with the winterizing if you are not keen to do it at the mooring. One less thing you have to deal with at the end of the season

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Re: Are you a dock person or a mooring person?

In our neck of the woods, there are no mooring fields and it is rare to see any boats on a mooring anywhere. I keep my 34 footer in an uncovered slip for less than $1700 per year, water and electric included. No on-site restaurant, but we do have a pool. I'm guessing a covered slip would be another $5-600/year.
We actually like our marina neighbors and enjoy socializing with them. Our yachtclub ($85/year) has a function every month from April to October and I can tell you, we eat good and plenty. At least once, maybe 2 other times a month, our dock will have a potluck/cookout. Sometimes breakfast. Again we eat good.
So yes, we like keeping our boat at the dock and nothing would ever change that.

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Re: Are you a dock person or a mooring person?

Have to admit, I've grown kinda fond of my marina, even though it's expensive. I've made friends with two guys with sailboats and one "hanger rounder" old salt sailor. Sometimes they come on my boat, sometimes I go on theirs. I also enjoy chatting with the guys who work at the marina. There was originally a mechanic there who gave me so many invaluable tips and tricks along the way...kinda like a real live mainesail of my own . Unfortunately, he retired last year.

That notwithstanding, most of the guys who use the marina seem to know much less about sailing than the guys (and women) at the club.
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