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Question Which 27 ??

I've been looking at a couple of 27 ft boats, a 1982 Hunter 27 and a 1983 Catalina 27.

The Hunter has seen much better care over the last 15 years (one owner, raised their boys sailing on it) The Catalina is in rough cosmetic shape, but has a fresher engine, transmission, cutlass bearing.

But, a 1982 Newport 27 just came on the market. From the listing, it looks to be in pretty good shape. I know nothing about a Newport.

Any thoughts on these boats for a would-be first time sailboat owner?
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Re: Which 27 ??

Check out Ericson 27 . . .
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Re: Which 27 ??

Ok, will do

EDIT: Dang, the Ericson 27 sure looks like a NICE boat!!

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Re: Which 27 ??

Or a C&C27.... lots of choice.

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Re: Which 27 ??

With older boats (1970s/1980s) it's often a matter of how well the boat has been maintained, rather than who the original builder was. That said, some makes tend to hold up much better than others. In fact, older Catalinas, Hunters, and Newports tend to suffer with age much more than most other brands, although newer Catalinas and Hunters seem to be fairly well built (Newport went belly-up years ago). Ericsons tend to be pretty well-built, and their interiors were finished quite a bit better than most of their contemporaries. But they also tend to be a bit slower than many of the "coastal cruiser"/"club racer" sort of boats from that era.

All that said, any boat that has been really well-maintained and has has some upgrades (such as installing proper thru-hulls, replacing dodgy keel bolts, installing backing plates on the deck hardware, maybe even replacing the ancient A4, etc.) would probably be better than a boat that was originally very well-made but subsequently neglected.
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Re: Which 27 ??

In my experience the older Ericson 27s a much better sailor then the Catalina, or Hunter from the same years. Newports and Ericsons are a step up in quality from the Catalinas or Hunters. I think the Newport 28 is a better boat than the 27.

These are just my opinions....but I'm really smart.
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Re: Which 27 ??

For sure, with older boats overall condition is probably the major factor. Of the three that are for sale in my area, the Catalina looks the worst, but it might just be looks. A little elbow grease could have it polished and shined up in a few weekends. Mechanically, it might be in the best shape.

This is the link to the Newport that caught my eye:
Bluewater Bay Yachts, Inc. (Niceville, FL)
There's no mention of engine hours or condition, so it could be worn out.

Finally, all good suggestions on boat makes to consider. But, I'm at the mercy of what's for sale within a reasonable distance (Mobile, AL to Niceville, FL, with me in the middle.) Having a 30+ yr-old 27' boat shipped just doesn't make financial sense.
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Re: Which 27 ??

Even though this issue has been pounded to death, I'll say it one more time.

An older Atomic 4 engine should not be a deal breaker in my opinion. The support, availability of parts, and simplicity are all there to make it a dependable auxiliary.

There are even those of us in our alternate universe that prefer to have a gas engine.

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Re: Which 27 ??

We have a Catalina 27 (1973) and love it. One very big advantage (in my opinion) is that you can easily get just about ANY part you might need for it. Catalina Direct: has proved to be a GREAT resource (standing rigging, mast head, chain plates, lifeline fittings, etc). Just about ANYTHING that's on that boat is available through them.

Also a TON of Catalina 27s out there, so easy to find one in a bone yard and pick it clean for things you might need.

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Re: Which 27 ??

Check out Cal 27 and 2-27 as well. These tend to be very solid boats that sail well. If you like to consider full keel boats, Cape Dory 27 is an excellent choice.
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