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Florence Arthaud killed in helicopter crash

I read her bio not long ago. I hate seeing such a young and vivasious person leave this earth so early in life.

At 17, she was in a serious car accident, which resulted in paralysis. In 1990, Arthaud, one of the first women to obtain the record for the fastest solitary crossing of the North Atlantic.
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That was very upsetting news. Its hard to overstate the courage of women distance racing pioneers like Isabelle Autissier and Florence Arthaud.

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Re: Florence Arthaud killed in helicopter crash

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I hate seeing such a young and vivasious person leave this earth so early in life.
Yes, it's sad seeing people that obviously enjoy life so much having it taken away early.

Unfortunately, if you engage in activities with some, albeit calculated, risk, you can lose. She probably thought that flying in a helicopter was far safer than solo ocean crossings, which doesn't sound unreasonable. It's all a probability game, and no risk is quite boring for people used to challenging themselves.

The vague reports that I saw said that two helicopters were though to have collided, which sounds quite unusual. I hope that TF1 looks after the families of the victims, both financially and by getting to the bottom of what went wrong.

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That was very upsetting news. Its hard to overstate the courage of women distance racing pioneers like Isabelle Autissier and Florence Arthaud.

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She was more than just courageous, my friend :-)





Amazing woman, amazing sailor... But in a sense, she was already living on borrowed time... Not many solo sailors fall overboard at sea, after all, and live to tell the tale...

Female solo sailor saved by mobile phone after falling overboard - Telegraph

Damn helicopters, few things scare me more than getting into a freakin' chopper... I still can't believe I once shot a Friday practice session of the Australian GP from a helo piloted by a guy who went by the name of "Cheater"... :-)

Sail on, girl...


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She was more than just courageous, my friend :-)





Amazing woman, amazing sailor... But in a sense, she was already living on borrowed time... Not many solo sailors fall overboard at sea, after all, and live to tell the tale...

Female solo sailor saved by mobile phone after falling overboard - Telegraph

Damn helicopters, few things scare me more than getting into a freakin' chopper... I still can't believe I once shot a Friday practice session of the Australian GP from a helo piloted by a guy who went by the name of "Cheater"... :-)

Sail on, girl...


Jon, you cannot blame the "chopper ". It's only an inanimate object, no more than you can blame a boat. So you think "Cheater" could have been the problem or the helicopter? Sorry but this reeks so badly of pilot error. (Not helicopter error)

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Sorry but this reeks so badly of pilot error. (Not helicopter error)
That looks to be the most likely explanation. One of the helicopters appears to be too close to trees, but only the investigation will tell us why it was. Unfortunately, it won't change the outcome of the crash.
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Re: Florence Arthaud killed in helicopter crash

Just saw a video of the actual collision. Looks like one of the pilots just wasn't watching where he was going.
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Takes two to tangle. Neither pilot probably saw the other hence the midair.
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Takes two to tangle. Neither pilot probably saw the other hence the midair.
It looked like one helo was coming from behind and to the side of the other. He was probably out of the other pilot's field of view.

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Re: Florence Arthaud killed in helicopter crash

Unless the tail rotor stopped working, it'll be pilot error. My brother flew CH53's in the Marines dropping off troops and equipment in the first Saudi war and saw a few helo crashes. It was always pilot error. The old truth saying still stands, "No matter what is happening, Fly The Plane" (or helo in this case).

When I got my private pilots license I was lucky to get all my flight time with a gorgeous 27 year old blonde who had almost every license there was including jet. There were many time during the first few weeks of flying where trying to soak everything into my head I forgot the basic rule, "Fly the plane". The private airstrip I trained from had a runway that only allowed 1000 yards for the climb before you were in the local airport airspace with big jets. Twice I climbed out and forgot to switch over to their frequency and state my intentions. They radioed me of course and asked and of course I felt like an idiot. I knew two of the ATC's there so next time I requested a touch and go there they cleared me to land but just a half mile out they called and switched runways on me....I think to teach me a lesson.

Another time I was coming in for what seemed like a perfect landing after turning to base and just as I turned for final approach I flew threw a wind shear and the plane dropped about 15 feet in about 3 seconds. I had only about 20 hours of flight time then and hadn't experienced this before so I just sort of froze so my instructor immediatly screamed, "I got it" and took over and landed it perfectly as always. She got mad at me after we landed and very sturnly said, "Remember, fly the f***in plane".

As stated, if the tail rotor was fine, it'll be pilot error not flying the aircraft no matter what is happening outside.
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