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The Seven Seas Cruising Association (SSCA) Concerned Cruisers Committee (CCC) is a group of SSCA members who actively represent the global cruising community's interests. We work on issues that impact our cruising experience from anchoring limits in the US to visa time limits in Europe. SSCA has joined together with other regional and national boater’s rights organizations to represent cruisers' concerns before the Florida legislature. The SSCA CCC has established itself as a source of marine expertise, knowledge and a voice of reason with the Florida legislature. Of greatest importance for the SSCA CCC is a bill that will finally resolve the ongoing issues regarding anchoring in Florida.

In order for SSCA and its partners to succeed we need your financial help right now to support our team’s expenses, advisors and costs that were ever so critical to our success last year. We do not have much time as the legislative session starts on January 12, 2016. So please join the effort to defend cruisers’ rights by making contributions to one or all of our campaigns today. Also please share this with your friends and those you know in the marine industry.

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Florida HB 1051 is just a framework. We can expect it to change and grow as the legislative session progresses.

Any of us can complain and rant. If you want to do more than that and be an effective part of the solution then join SSCA and contribute what you can to the fight.

I will report back as I can.

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Re: Florida is at it again

HB 1051 now has a companion bill in the senate, SB 1260.

SB 1260 is authored by Simpson, on the EP committee.

HB 1051 authored by Caldwell is on the State Affairs Committee.

Those bills first stops will most likely be those committees. Here are the lists for those committees:

Florida House of Representatives - State Affairs Committee


https://www.flsenate.gov/Committees/.../?Tab=Meetings

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So what is the problem? These pending bills only deal with three specific areas of eastern Fl., including parts of the inter coastal waterway, in which it already is unlawful to anchor, correct? It's good to know what is being proposed, but does it actually concern or relate to 99.99% of boaters? I looked up Crab Island at East pass, this appears to be a very small area of the Pensacola Bay. Worthy of objection to anchor in a small pass? Let's hear your opinion. Here is the relevant proposal:
(1) A person may not anchor or moor a vessel at any time
15 between the hours from one-half hour after sunset to one-half
16 hour before sunrise in the following recreational boating zones:
17 (a) The section of Middle River lying between Northeast
18 21st Court and the Intracoastal Waterway in Broward County.
19 (b) Sunset Lake in Miami-Dade County.
20 (c) The sections of Biscayne Bay in Miami-Dade County lying
21 between:
22 1. Rivo Alto Island and Di Lido Island.
23 2. San Marino Island and San Marco Island.
24 3. San Marco Island and Biscayne Island.
25 (d) Crab Island in Choctawhatchee Bay at the East Pass in
26 Okaloosa County.
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This is a framework bill. The legislative session has not even started yet. You can expect a steady flow of additional areas. We've been through this sort of thing before.

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So what is the problem? These pending bills only deal with three specific areas of eastern Fl., including parts of the inter coastal waterway, in which it already is unlawful to anchor, correct?
There are probably navigational rules for anchoring in a channel, but I'm not aware of any Florida laws that prohibit anchoring along the ICW.

If these bills pass, what will happen is that every other city could use any ridiculous reason to restrict anchoring in their part of the waterway. I'm fairly certain that no one is water skiing in Sunset Lake, and even less after sundown.

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Re: Florida is at it again

SSCA President Steve Kauffmann has released an update on the latest round of proposed legislation in Florida.

If you want to help the best thing you can do is become an SSCA member. Already a member? Make a donation to the legislative support fund and/or to the PAC that provides resources to defend anchoring rights. See http://ssca.org for more information.

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Anchoring Update --We've been watching the FL legislature all week.and don't support current developments. Here is a release...please spread this far and wide:

Your right to anchor in five Florida anchorages will be gone if HB1051 Recreational Boating Zones and its companion SB1260 pass. All overnight anchoring would be prohibited in Middle River in Broward County; Sunset Lake and the areas between Rivo Alto Island and Di Lido Island, San Marino Island and San Marco Island, San Marco Island and Biscayne Island all in Miami-Dade County; and Crab Island in Choctawhatchee Bay. More prohibitions will come if this law passes.

SSCA, the National Marine Manufacturers Association, and BoatUS, with support from the Marine Trawler Owner’s Association and the American Great Loop Cruisers Association are opposing these bills as written. HB1051 is scheduled to be heard in the Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee Tuesday January 26 at Noon. We need your help now.

Please call or email the members of the Subcommittee. Here is a link to the committee with the names of the members.

Florida House of Representatives - Agriculture & Natural Resources Subcommittee

If you click on the member’s names you can get their Tallahassee office telephone numbers and email addresses. Please email them this weekend and call their offices on Monday. Your email can contain the following:

“I am a cruiser and Florida voter and am writing to express my opposition to HB1051 Recreational Boating Zones. This bill will restrict overnight anchoring in five areas that have historically been used by Florida cruisers and visitors from out of state.

The bills interfere with our maritime rights to navigation which include anchoring. Anchoring restrictions impact many Florida recreational boaters who regularly cruise the waters and rivers of the state by limiting places to safely stop for the night, reprovision and get out of severe weather. Four of the proposed areas are in Southeast Florida where thousands of boaters transit yearly. Many marinas in Florida do not allow transient docking or in many cases are full and unable to accept additional boats. I urge to you vote against this bill.”

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I've been anchored at South Beach for the past week. It is sad to see all these piece of crap boats anchored here. Pretty seedy looking characters on some, and in dinghies running up Collins Canal. Signs prohibiting tying up to shore in most areas. The exception being the Publix dock. Yesterday, there was a junk boat tied up to the wall there, inches from sinking.

Man, I don't know what the answer to the problem is, but there is a definite problem here!

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Law enforcement already has laws to clean up crap boats and I've watched them several times over last 50 years. Take a look at the requirements you have to meet in order to have your boat legal. That's just to put it in the water not to use your boat own the rivers, lakes and oceans of the USA. Do you think those crap boats meet those laws? It cost money for the state to enforce laws. If the state can't find out who owns the boat then the state has to pay for the removal. If a crap boats drags into a sandbar in front of major hotel and sinks it's red tagged then removed. Strange how that state budget works.
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How about we ask Division of Wildlife here in Florida for more enforcement of boating laws, i.e. having an operational head, night lights, safety equip. etc. Would this enforcement weed out some of the "crap boats" since if they aren't putting money in their boats for upkeep and maintenance, then the state could quarentine the boat (or jail the owner until fines are paid?)? Of course, such actions would include all of us, is it worth being harassed by the law in the hope some bad boats will be brought up to standards--or sold to another owner if confiscated by gov't from the negligent owner?
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I've been anchored at South Beach for the past week. It is sad to see all these piece of crap boats anchored here. Pretty seedy looking characters on some, and in dinghies running up Collins Canal. Signs prohibiting tying up to shore in most areas. The exception being the Publix dock. Yesterday, there was a junk boat tied up to the wall there, inches from sinking.
You are on point Ralph.

There is no question about the problem of derelict boats. The cruising community representation in Florida led by SSCA including BoatUS, AGLCA, MTOA, and NMMA agree that there is a problem. We suggest, as others have noted, that existing regulation is sufficient. Where additional regulation is needed restricting anchoring is an ineffective component. The big problem is that politicians find it easier to pass new laws than to adequately fund enforcement of existing laws.

The second issue is that there are some homeowners who feel that they purchased their view with their land. They use a number of points of leverage, derelict boats being one, to push for "solutions" that achieve the ends they actually desire: anchoring restrictions.

On the latter point I have seen some rants about "wealthy landowners." It is my experience that wealth does not equate with being *ahem* a nasty person associated with a bodily orifice. However those with wealth who happen to be such people can make a pretty big fuss. That is a good bit of what we see in Florida.

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