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re: Privacy considerations for ignorant powerboaters

Sounds like someone needs to sneak onto Tardis with some blue paint and remove all the "is"
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re: Privacy considerations for ignorant powerboaters

Thanks guys. That's my understanding as well. Back out into the bumper cars of Narragansett Bay.
Thing is the increasing attitude of some of the nouveau rich of entitlement and the ennui of of the judgement proof underclass. The solid citizens aware they share the world with others are increasingly affronted with these egocentric people.

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Thanks guys. That's my understanding as well. Back out into the bumper cars of Narragansett Bay.
Thing is the increasing attitude of some of the nouveau rich of entitlement and the ennui of of the judgement proof underclass. The solid citizens aware they share the world with others are increasingly affronted with these egocentric people.
It's not just the rich. I've had plenty of bubba bowriders with operators in cut off camo attempt to swamp my canoe or kayak almost certainly on purpose over the years.
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re: Privacy considerations for ignorant powerboaters

Has anyone taken the New Jersey boater course recently?

I took it when the requirement first came in, but I don't remember them paying any attention to boat wakes at all during the class. Just a multiple choice question on the test that you should slow down in a no wake zone.

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Has anyone taken the New Jersey boater course recently...I don't remember them paying any attention to boat wakes at all during the class...
I wouldn't expect them to cover this in the Joisey voision of the coise.

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OK, I'm feeling feisty tonight, so I sent this non-anonymous note to the guy on Facebook. I'm curious to see if I get a polite response, or the usual New Jersey "FU" salute:
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Bryan, I have a friendly suggestion for you. I think that you need to be more careful about your speed and distance with which you pass other boaters. You passed me on the Delaware River last Saturday morning (July 11) at 11:18. You were going 24 knots and were less than 60 feet away. Your 4-foot wake made a mess of my cabin and nearly swamped my 25 foot sailboat. I tried to hail you on the radio, but you did not respond.

I mentioned this incident to a friend who sails on the Sassafras River, and he said that you had done something similar to him on July 5. He even described your boat exactly - blue hull, "The Tardis."

I am not sure whether you are aware that all boaters are responsible for any damage that they cause to others - not just direct collisions, but also wake-induced injuries and damage. I would hate to see some rowboat get sunk, or even worse, a small child get thrown overboard. But these things have been known to happen when vessels pass too close and/or too high a speed.

Some friends have suggested that I report you to the authorities. I do NOT intend to do that because no permanent damage was caused to my boat, although it was a close call. Instead, I am just sending this friendly reminder. You seem like a stand-up guy, so I will assume that you just don't realize what sorts of problems you may be causing, and what sort of reputation you may be getting in the small, well connected world of pleasure boats.

Thanks for you attention to this.

Yours truly,

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re: Privacy considerations for ignorant powerboaters

There was a period where I delivered six gold plate Sport fishermen north each spring, and south each fall. 4 days from Lauderdale to Norfolk.
I would try to be as courteous as possible, but the sail boats had to do their part for things to go well for both parties.
If a power boat in the ditch (well anywhere, actually) comes off a plane to pass a sail boat, then the sail boat must slow down to idle speed to allow the power boat to go by with a minimum wake. If the sail boat maintains his speed of say 5 knots, then the power boat must do at least 8 to get by in a reasonable amount of time. At that speed, he is definitely throwing a bigger wake.
It is a give and take situation and both parties need to under stand how to make it easy on the other.
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This seems like a lot of time and energy to expend just for getting waked by a powerboat. Whatever makes you happy, I guess.
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This seems like a lot of time and energy to expend just for getting waked by a powerboat. Whatever makes you happy, I guess.
I agree, except it will not make me happy.

I've been waked by dozens of sport fishers, especially on the Elk River and C&D Canal. It happens, no big deal. But never like this. 24 knots at 50 feet is crazy. (60 foot distance between our GPSs - subtract 50% of our beams, and it's only 50 feet) And he did the same thing to others a week earlier. If someone doesn't warn him, he may really hurt someone. That's why I wrote to him.
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re: Privacy considerations for ignorant powerboaters

Coming around Sandy hook, a few years ago, trying to beat out on a light wind some idiot did something similar overtaking me. It shook all the wind out of my sails, threw stuff around, and of course, warranted the obligatory middle finger salute. I probably should have just motored out of there instead of sailing in Sandy Hook Channel so my decision to have sails up in the land of the discourteous was partly at fault. Sometimes you just have to figure that you are in hostile territory and plan accordingly:-)

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