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rishi851 07-14-2015 05:31 AM

Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Hey guys,

I have a peculiar query. Lately I've become very frustrated(and even a tad bit scared) of flying. The long waits at the airport, the entire process is a bore to me. When younger(I am 30) I would get excited at the prospect of flying. Not anymore.

I am a film director(and yes, someday it is my dream to make the definitive Sailing movie). As such I will have to keep travelling across continents. I intend to keep two houses-one in Mumbai and another in LA and divide my time.

Now here's my question: My father was a marine sailor and sailed for 30 years before retiring as a Master/Captain. I sailed almost the entire world on his few ships(Bulk carriers/Oil tankers). Even then I loved the serenity of the oceans. Perhaps in retrospect that is why I got into an artistic field.

Is it my overactive fantasy or can I have a boat and literally use it to cross oceans like I did with my father? Of course with much practise. I am already reading seaman's manuals and astro navigation.

I'd need to buy a nice boat ofcourse

killarney_sailor 07-14-2015 08:31 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Is it possible? Yes. Is it practical? Nor really. You have to remember that when you travel by boat you go very slowly, perhaps 1/100th of the speed of an airplane. Also you need to deal with prevailing winds and currents and storm (cyclone) seasons. Going from California to India and back would really mean sailing around the world. Even with a very fast race boat you would be doing very well to complete this journey in three months and that would only be possible with departures at the right time of year. Better off to get help dealing with the flight phobia.

MarkofSeaLife 07-14-2015 09:06 AM

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As Killarney says.

Mumbai to LA: You cannot get further apart in the sailing world. It is a multi year passage because you can not go direct in one season in either direction. So to sail either way will take you 18 months.

That's too long.

Sorry to be a dampener on your thoughts but you are going to need to fall in love with flying again :)

aeventyr60 07-14-2015 09:53 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Book a cruise on the QEII and enjoy yourself.

Markwesti 07-14-2015 09:23 PM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
If you make a sailing movie and you use this song in the movie I will buy a ticket .
<iframe width="854" height="510" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7tiOHXiFwgk?list=PLdTYAxehGk-SDxEa8RU3P-XWyx0xfOVoa" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>.
Really I would , here is a idea ... Buy a sail boat, (LA .). It will give you a whole new out look on the day ( Peter Fonda , Easy Rider ) .

capttb 07-14-2015 09:48 PM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Yes, but you'd be better served with something like a Nordhavn than a sailboat, and your still only going to average about 6 kts. at 1.6 to 2 GPH.
My wife wants a 40' "baby Nordie" when we retire from sailing.

Hudsonian 07-14-2015 10:20 PM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
A friend recently sailed from the NY Metro area to Gambia to attend a conference and sailed back; double handed on 38' sloop. He's shooting for a low carbon footprint

grnrngr 07-14-2015 10:53 PM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
There are companies that will book you as a passenger on a working ship, just googled "cruising on freighters" and got several hits. Might fit your needs well, gives you time at sea as well as being on a schedule. Just a WAG, but I'm thinking that trip would maybe be two or three weeks on a freighter as opposed to several months on a sailboat.

rishi851 07-15-2015 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by grnrngr (Post 2909345)
There are companies that will book you as a passenger on a working ship, just googled "cruising on freighters" and got several hits. Might fit your needs well, gives you time at sea as well as being on a schedule. Just a WAG, but I'm thinking that trip would maybe be two or three weeks on a freighter as opposed to several months on a sailboat.


Oh Yes, yes.....They are. I have done all the research. And these are the ships my father captained and I spent all my childhood in-bulk carriers and oil tankers(mainly bulk carriers or frieghters as you call them)

They usually charge around 4k(inclusive of everything-bed, food) and last anywhere from 20 days to a month. Very fascinating but there comes a time when one wants to take charge. I will do this once a blue moon though.

rishi851 07-15-2015 03:13 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
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Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife (Post 2907865)
As Killarney says.

Mumbai to LA: You cannot get further apart in the sailing world. It is a multi year passage because you can not go direct in one season in either direction. So to sail either way will take you 18 months.

That's too long.

Sorry to be a dampener on your thoughts but you are going to need to fall in love with flying again :)

:cut_out_animated_em

Yeah yeah, that is what I want. I'd love a few months in the ocean like the good ole days. Not that I'd be making a trip every few months. Just once a year ritual.

rishi851 07-15-2015 03:13 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
What do you make of this:

Why are so many Nordhavn's for sale?

capecodda 07-15-2015 06:03 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Yea, we all hate the airports and flying now. The problem is:

Nothing goes to windward like a 747.

MarkofSeaLife 07-15-2015 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by rishi851 (Post 2909561)
What do you make of this:

Why are so many Nordhavn's for sale?


"Deep down I think we all secretly harbor thoughts of casting off and traversing oceans. Leaving familiar surroundings bound for new continents or the emotion of returning to a home port after thousands of miles at sea. The reality is it's hard enough to string together a couple of weeks of spare time let alone a couple of years."

I think you should read and reread that passage one hundred times because floating between Mumbai and LA is truly nuts. Sorry to be so blunt.

Mark

rishi851 07-15-2015 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife (Post 2909889)
"Deep down I think we all secretly harbor thoughts of casting off and traversing oceans. Leaving familiar surroundings bound for new continents or the emotion of returning to a home port after thousands of miles at sea. The reality is it's hard enough to string together a couple of weeks of spare time let alone a couple of years."

I think you should read and reread that passage one hundred times because floating between Mumbai and LA is truly nuts. Sorry to be so blunt.

Mark

No. You are correct, It would be an extremely foolish decision to even try once, let alone wish to routine it. Best option I have is a trip to SE Asia(Singapore,Thailand).

capttb 07-15-2015 11:19 AM

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I'm docked in front of the international headquarters for "Pacific Asian Enterprises" so I get to see all the brand new Nordies come in from Asia and get fitted out for the new owners, 3 new ones just came in Monday. This one just left recently for parts unknown, notice the unique tender on deck with air tanks, they loaded that sub on board with the boat lift.
There might be some reality detachment happening there.

Donna_F 07-15-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by capttb (Post 2909985)
I'm docked in front of the international headquarters for "Pacific Asian Enterprises" so I get to see all the brand new Nordies come in from Asia and get fitted out for the new owners, 3 new ones just came in Monday. This one just left recently for parts unknown, notice the unique tender on deck with air tanks, they loaded that sub on board with the boat lift.
There might be some reality detachment happening there.

If they had to get it on board with a lift, when they get out to sea, how will they get it off to use?

Or maybe that's what you meant by "reality detachment"?

grnrngr 07-15-2015 11:40 AM

Re: Is it possible to travel by (own) ship as a rule?
 
Then to answer your original question, Yes, If you own your own ship, you can go anywhere in the world you want at any time. There are of course other considerations, do you know how to run a ship? can you do it yourself or do you need a crew? We'll assume you already have your personal paperwork to travel internationally, your ship will need some too, as well as your crew, if any. Let's forget currents and wind directions for a moment (something you absolutely cannot do when considering a sailboat) and discuss the "lay of the land" between Mumbai and L.A. Can you handle pirates or radical religious or political extremists? Seems there are lots of them in little islands of Indonesia, the Phillipines, and other parts of the SE Asia coast. Sailboats mean rich people to people who have nothing and make an easy target. If you've travelled the sea a bit you've probably run thru some storms, the perspective is a lot different from the deck of a 50 foot sailboat 6 feet off the water than it is from the deck of a 500-1000 foot ship 100-150 feet off the water. Not to mention, those ships travel some 15-20 knots non-stop, your sailboat can maybe hit 8-10 occasionally on a real good day if you really know what your doing. And then there are the differences in responsibilities between being a captain and being a crew member or a passenger. Have you ever been crew on any of the ships you've been on? If none of that bothers you it is quite possible to accomplish if you have the time, money, knowledge, and adequate preparation, many people have sailed around the world on their own ships.

Minnewaska 07-15-2015 12:25 PM

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Flying lessons maybe?


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