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GO. AWAY. TROLL. ...See all the intelligent peoples replies?
An intelligent world veteran sailor might be able to look at the pilot charts and determine the weather for himself. How'd you ever get the delivery job with the routing being in question? Your worried about a little extra time enroute to Hawaii, but never considered the weeks you may be sitting in Coo's bay, Or. or some other really knarly bar entrance harbor waiting for the weather for to lighten up, after having gotten your ass kicked from San Francisco to mid way up the Oregon coast. That is, if you can weather Cape Mendocino.
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Take what you want from this, I am sitting in Victoria. We just brought my Swan 46 up from San Francisco. You might say it's well founded. With years of experience I hired a captain. About all he does is bring boats up and down this coast. I hired him because I know what a biatch this coast is and how dangerous these river bars are. With the boat cost, time and years of work, I consider it was money well spent.
There are a lot more ports along the coast than most people think. But in some conditions they are closed, for good reasons.
We tried getting around Point Arena twice and was turned back twice to spend days waiting in Bodega Bay. It starts at 20-25 but as you approach the point, it quickly builds to 35-40 with 6-8' seas at 6-8 seconds. Sure my swan can take it. But how long until something breaks or someone gets hurt? And then you still have Cape Mendo in front of you. I suggested we go offshore to get around, but it's a couple hundred miles. Might as well sit in Bodega eating cheap crab and good beer while you wait for a weather window.
Once we got ours we went fast and hard only stopping for fuel. We stopped in Brookings and Westport. Weather was closing hard behind us.
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Re: Need Passage Routing Advice-San Diego to Seattle

Looking a bit blustery on the Coast today, not to mention the offshore cyclones:

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Lets see...49 post as opposed to over 2500? Troll? Read the pilot charts. Most people here are telling you this.

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Too many hurricanes out towards Hawaii this year for that route. And it is a long long way, a long way from shore, too. That option is out. I was just out there. You have a big boat with a big engine. Just motor up the coast. Retreat or duck in during the gales. Stay in-shore, in the meager lee and counter currents caused by the capes. Don't get trapped in the weather window nightmare rotting in port with a bunch of other timid sailors. Just go. The worst weather is normally just 20 miles either side of the dozen major capes. The later you wait in the season the bigger the fair weather windows are. Except this El Niņo period has the winter cold fronts coming south early...maybe.

Pilot charts are useless for any type of short term forecasting. Also useless now because of El Niņo.

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Too many hurricanes out towards Hawaii this year for that route. And it is a long long way, a long way from shore, too. That option is out. I was just out there. You have a big boat with a big engine. Just motor up the coast. Retreat or duck in during the gales. Stay in-shore, in the meager lee and counter currents caused by the capes. Don't get trapped in the weather window nightmare rotting in port with a bunch of other timid sailors. Just go. The worst weather is normally just 20 miles either side of the dozen major capes. The later you wait in the season the bigger the fair weather windows are. Except this El Niņo period has the winter cold fronts coming south early...maybe.

Pilot charts are useless for any type of short term forecasting. Also useless now because of El Niņo.
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