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I basically agree but your list is a bit short - I use figure eights for stoppers, rolling hitches on occasion and I just discovered and plan to use the halyard knot to replace some bowlines.

The crew knowledge factor doesn't matter much to me because for anything even semi-important I never trust anyone else to tie the knot.
You might want to learn a new stopper knot for the occasion when your jib sheet is flying overboard and you decide you never want that to happen again.
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It is probably unnecessary to learn every exotic, specific-purpose knot. There are, however, more than just a few that sailors should know because they do have specific uses on sailboats. Bare minimum: Bowline, Square, Halyard, Fisherman's, Cleat hitch, Braided, 12 strand and 3 strand splicing, Hitches on a piling, Truckers hitch, fig 8. I mean geez, if you're going to go sailing there ARE some skills involved. Some things require a little EFFORT. I don't think it's necessary to know how to tie a sheepshank, for instance because it's rarely useful and not really connected to any safety use. Just being familiar with the characteristics of different knots tells you what they can and can't do. If you never learn those characteristics, you'll never know the reason to use one knot and not the other. The Bowline topic is a perfect example. Great knots.....but NOT for everything. You need to be able to say, "I need this knot because....."

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You might want to learn a new stopper knot for the occasion when your jib sheet is flying overboard and you decide you never want that to happen again.
Never happened in 45 years so I'll stick with the figure eight for a while.

I do work it very tight when I tie it, I don't just throw it in.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Knots,(hitches and bends) are use pacific. Take the little known and less used sheepshank for example. You never know when you might need to ride a young bull.It's the perfect handle. One loop around each horn and hang on to the middle. Tight. Come to remember, it didn't work all that well. But easy to impress others with your dexterity It's a clove hitch with one extra loop
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I basically agree but your list is a bit short - I use figure eights for stoppers, rolling hitches on occasion and I just discovered and plan to use the halyard knot to replace some bowlines.
I have a short list because a short memory.

I started using the Halyard know instead of a bowline for my genoa sheets. Great knot! The downside is that once tied and loaded, you will never untie it. You have to cut it.

For my spinnaker sheets I gave up on knots and put a spliced loop at the end of the sheet then use a soft shackle to attach them to the clew.

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Yep, add Figure of 8 for a stop k or, of course.
Halyard knots can be good too, but I only the one once per year so I can just Google it or copy another one. I don't need to commit it to memory.

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