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If you have never been to Don's in Clearwater Florida you are in for a treat. Tons of marine surplus nicely ordered for easy shopping. I was there last week and scored a nice dockbox. This was probably my third time there and was just about to leave when I remembered needing a small winch. Not having seen winches in my shopping travels I stopped at the desk on my way out to ask their location.

I was told that all the sailing stuff was in a locked trailer and would need employee escort to go in. Sure enough an employee was found who had the key. The doors were flung open for me to spend an additional 30 minutes in the sailing trailer.

When I asked why it had to be locked the employee just laughed and snickered something about sailing stuff being smaller tended to walk out of the pace without proper payment. At first I thought it was funny but...

So my question... I have never had anything go missing at my slip even when boat left unlocked... I place pretty high level of trust in my marina mates. But maybe I need to be more careful. Whatcha think?

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Re: Lock it up when sailors come around???

Our marina has 24 hour security but no gates.. There has been the odd breakin but we've never lost anything here

In our former marina we had a number of boats broken into - little if any major damage, mostly seemed to be after booze and money. We were in the middle of a refit and the boat was such a mess they probably opened the hatch, looked below and went elsewhere. We did lose an outboard off another small boat, that marina had gates but I think most thieves come by water anyhow - at least those looking for marine stuff.

But in nearly 35 years of sailing that's it for us.

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As a 35 odd year live a board I can honestly say that anyone found on my vessel at night was found there in the morning
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Re: Lock it up when sailors come around???

Never had as much as an empty beer bottle stolen from my marina. I see boat bags left for days, then collected, presumably by the owners, on a regular basis.

I once left about a thousand dollars worth of photographic equipment on the dingy ramp. Came back 24 hrs later with a couple of buddies to look for it, we had been drinking. We completely missed the black bag and left. Next day (day three) I found it just where I left if at the ramp. Dozens of people must have walked by that bag and wondered who it belonged to, yet left if be.

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Re: Lock it up when sailors come around???

I immediately see two possibilities for their policy of locking up the sailing stuff.

1. They are prejudiced against sailors for no particular reason.

2. They are acting like any intelligent business owner and basing their policies based on their past experience.

I'm going with choice #2. How people behave in a marina is not necessarily how they will behave when they're shopping.

When I was in business, my policies, unfortunately, were based on an identifiable group of people who could consistently be relied on to cheat me. Why this particular group was predisposed toward larceny was interesting to me intellectually, but bottom line, my policies toward all were based on the behavior of the worst.

I wouldn't take offense to the sailing stuff being locked up.
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My guess is that it is just more that there are smaller valuable pieces, and would be locked up or at least watched a bit closer like the jewellery department in any store. "Excuse me sir, is that a winch in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" (and if so I am impressed!)

I will say that the marina I am at no one seems to lock up there boats, and there are a couple who have expensive looking electronics right there there within arms reach of the dock without being covered or locked. And this is about 30 miles from NYC. Granted it is a bit isolated, not within walking distance of the nearest store, but not remote.

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A local chandlery started locking up the sailing items to reduce shrinkage. They ended up discontinuing stocking sailing gear.
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They closed and bulldozed the local meth hangout so now the vagrants have started moving closer to the water because they can find shelter there. Crime has also gone up in the marina and the 24 hour security is a joke. Either kids with their face buried in their smart phone or some old guy who looks like he could be blown off the dock in force 1 winds.

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Re: Lock it up when sailors come around???

At Shelter Bay Marina in Panama one late night some one took a pair of shore sandals that were on the deck of our boat. But the idiots took my left sandal and my wife's left sandal!

If anyone has no use for two left feet please return sandals.

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A local chandlery started locking up the sailing items to reduce shrinkage. They ended up discontinuing stocking sailing gear.
I think this might be the case.. I know there are a few employees who are also sailors at these businesses.. My guess is they don't pay well -- the West Marine in Toledo is staffed by people that could either be retired or in high school..

If you are living on your sailboat, need a winch.. it might spin out the door
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