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Re: Paying to watch youtube cruising vids

Me too. As long as you don't come back and have to live off the social programs that the mortgage and kid bound folks paid for. Otherwise, I'm envious.


WTF social programs would anybody come back to the USA for? What a joke.


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What they definitely will have is years of experiences that the other 99% will never have. Going sailing once you're retired and doing it while young like La Vag and Delos are 2 very different things. Good on them and who cares about whether they're saving for later, they seem all very resourceful people and things always work out for such people.
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A very interesting thread Minnewaska.

I haven't contributed, but I think I am ready to start contributing to a couple of the better done projects. What has held it back I think is - it is a different model from what we are used to.

The idea of voting with a few dollars to encourage this type of media project which benefits me as a (dreamer) sailor seems like the way to think about it. Also in general I have admiration for cruisers so I feel guilty that I don't at least kick in a few bucks for people who are really putting out the effort. So I guess that is the positive feedback loop others are talking about. Oddly, I really mind the few people who keep nagging about Patreon or are just trying to be a poorly done talk show.

Not too concerned about judging the sustainability of the lifestyle. We probably don't have enough information to even guess. Also, this lifestyle can't be easy, so anyone capable enough to pull this off on the level of say Delos is probably more than competent enough to achieve a productive life in the future. In any case, it isn't my responsibility.

It seems to be a rule that bikinis in the preview really ups the view counts.
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I think the early adopters, as usual, are going to have an edge on generating revenue from self-documentaries. As word of the few success stories continues to spread, the field will likely become grossly over populated (if it isn't already). YouTube suggests a new sailing related channel to me every day. Those I subscribe to were probably 50/50 Patreon, now they are 100%.

A new phenom lately is I have started to unsubscribe to some channels, as I add new. Competition.
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Producing good video is time consuming. I doubt vagabond can generate a new episode every week. Every 2 weeks continuously would be a lot.

The Shards have been doing VERY well with their tele series. I'm sure they dont do 52 episodes per year, max 26 and maybe only 13 per year. And they do some of the finishing at an edit house in Toronto.
I have followed them since they were dropping video onto the old Lats and Atts site and purchased all of their seasons. I believe I did hear him say in a podcast interview that they now have the equipment to be able to do their entire production from the boat.

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I think the early adopters, as usual, are going to have an edge on generating revenue from self-documentaries. As word of the few success stories continues to spread, the field will likely become grossly over populated (if it isn't already). YouTube suggests a new sailing related channel to me every day. Those I subscribe to were probably 50/50 Patreon, now they are 100%.

A new phenom lately is I have started to unsubscribe to some channels, as I add new. Competition.


I agree for the most part on early adpoters, though I suspect there might be a little of what happens with Americans on new sports.. ones they create -- King of the snowboard.. get it into the Olympics and other countries see what is done right... and get better.

I don't subscribe, but I do look at the long list and stop watching some.. or not look at others, since I feel I have spent enough time on what I watch already



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I agree for the most part on early adpoters, though I suspect there might be a little of what happens with Americans on new sports.. ones they create -- King of the snowboard.. get it into the Olympics and other countries see what is done right... and get better.

I don't subscribe, but I do look at the long list and stop watching some.. or not look at others, since I feel I have spent enough time on what I watch already

I find them helpful to get through winters here in the Northeast or until I head off for a winter charter. I also like to compare their experiences with places I have also cruised or serve as reconnaissance to some places I might want to visit or avoid in the future. One or two is enough to subscribe for my purposes but, I do glance at others as they pop up from time to time. I try to save them for winter viewing as I'm on my own boat this time of year enjoying my own experiences. As it should be.

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I have followed them since they were dropping video onto the old Lats and Atts site and purchased all of their seasons. I believe I did hear him say in a podcast interview that they now have the equipment to be able to do their entire production from the boat.
I talked to Sheryl last month, they were on their way to T O to do some finishing. I suspect he does most on the boat but has an edit house do the finishing touches...but thats just an educated guess
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I find them helpful to get through winters here in the Northeast or until I head off for a winter charter. I also like to compare their experiences with places I have also cruised or serve as reconnaissance to some places I might want to visit or avoid in the future. One or two is enough to subscribe for my purposes but, I do glance at others as they pop up from time to time. I try to save them for winter viewing as I'm on my own boat this time of year enjoying my own experiences. As it should be.

Since I haven't I compare them with each other.. I think how each deal with the swimming pigs is interesting.

Since I to to https://sailing-channels.com/by-upload at least once a day, I tend to not subscribe, mostly because I get the notice a day or two later


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The problem I see is that cheap or low effort videos made by people with little or no expectation of money get lumped together with the superior efforts.

I became aware of Dylan's Keep Turning Left videos due to sailing forums like this and from what little I've seen they seem on a different tier from the huge majority of what's out there on Youtube, sailing or otherwise. Films with that quality of production value and content seem like they could be sold to and broadcast on a TV channel, they are way better than most of what I see flipping around on cable TV. KTL could easily occupy a niche on a travel or history oriented channel, but I've learned reading this thread that Dylan used to have a deal with BBC but got canceled. Oh well.
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