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Paying to watch youtube cruising vids

I'm curious to hear what I anticipate being very different opinions of who makes monetary contributions to Patreon accounts or makes other financial contributions to folks who post self documentaries of their cruising.

I watch and subscribe to several. Few are really all that well done, but I find them akin to a conversation in the cockpit. They're not all well rehearsed or organized, but I enjoy the story.

I estimate I follow an even split between kids just starting out and more salty folks that have been at this a while. Do you refuse to contribute? Do you contribute to them all? Do you pick which are the best and what's the criteria for that?

I'm not going to name names, but give some examples.

I love watching a vid series of a couple of young kids on an extended cruise. It totally brings me back to being their age, when I never chose to do what they have. I love it. The videography is pretty poor by anyone's standard, but I don't really care. Then they discovered Patreon and would like some contributions to help them continue what is arguably an unsustainable lifestyle. I'm conflicted. Would I send them a few bucks as comp for the entertainment? Maybe, but why just them, everyone is asking. On the other hand, while it's awesome that they had this adventure, there will come a time they will need to provide for their medical care, retirement, etc, and not live off others. IOW, are they selling a product or just holding out a cup on the street corner, in your opinion?

Others have documented years, if not decades, of cruising, with no information whatsoever on how they fund it. Are they independently wealthy? Did they inherit the money they are using to cruise full time? Or, in one case, as was revealed on the internet, they were a complete fraud that was appearing destitute, when they were a highly paid internet security consultant. Perhaps they do work and just don't reveal how.

Is this a new business model? What's your take?
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Is this a new business model? What's your take?
Interesting question.

My take is that it is no different than a few decades after they invented movable type and they published books for "the masses."

"Holy Cow," old Mr. Gutenberg said, "now the masses are gonna start complaining that there's too much information out there and bug me with 'What book(s) should I read next?"

Some things never change.

You find what you like and then you read/follow it/them/she/he/it.

I've learned about new-to-me authors by picking up paperback books at my marina lending library; authors I never would have known about and have come to treasure.

Same thing with stuff on the internet. Find it, try it, come back to it or pass it by. No different than any other form of communication.

I use regular libraries, lending or swap libraries and buy both used and new books.

Seems it would be the same although most of us feel the FREE internet should remain that way. I've never contributed to any blog or YouTube. But I have personally spent countless hours preparing material on boating systems and share those links in response to recurring questions. I don't expect to get paid.
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Re: Paying to watch youtube cruising vids

The investopedia link on youtube advertising revenue was interesting. Thanks.

I went to look at the number of views for the vids on the various subscriptions I have. They are highly variable, from only a few thousand to as many as 30,000. Still, they're not going to apparently translate to much money. I couldn't tell which did or did not have "monetization" turned on.

What I had never noticed before, however, was that the young kids have way more views. Even though their video production quality is often far inferior.


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I do not donate to any Patreon accounts, but I buy t-shirts from the channels I enjoy.

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Re: Paying to watch youtube cruising vids

I've never really followed anyone on YouTube, so I haven't donated to anyone either.

But if I were going to donate I'd be more likely to donate to the kids than the oldsters. I've given money to my nephews and nieces to encourage them in their travels, but if my sisters want to go anywhere they have to fund that on their own.

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I believe you can make a six figure income from ad revenue alone if you get to 200k subscribers. No cruisers are close to that as far as I can see. Mostly gamers.


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There seems to be a range from poorly filmed but fun to watch the enthusiasm, to well filmed. Some have good DIY info thrown in as well, while others concentrate on that. I do wish the YouTube was more open about how they pay. As it is now it is a mystery and you never know how much you are going to make. I know for instance Keep Turning Left has had issues with YouTube not really paying what they are supposed to. I think that is the big reason for the push to Patrion as it is the only way to get a consistent flow of income.

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I believe you can make a six figure income from ad revenue alone if you get to 200k subscribers. No cruisers are close to that as far as I can see. Mostly gamers.


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And even then it is still kind of sketchy. I know the gamers do sponsorship as well, and likely make for from that than YouTube. Of course Drake, and Nike both get sponsorship as well. That seems to be a good model, though most sailing sponsors seem to only be willing to give gear not cash like the gaming industry.

There was for a while the shoppers that were posting, but not sure if they are sill popular.

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When you monetize your account you sign an NDA about the pay structure.

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