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Re: In praise of production boats!

So let's praise production boats.

Just got SAIL. There's a review of the Marlow-Hunter 31. Toe rail/hull deck joint a stainless L. Kevlar in lay up. Long LWL for LOA. Decent hardware. Good look for boat that size with big cockpit.

Is it what I'd choose to cross an ocean. No. A BCC, Orion or Mini might be a better choice.

Would I choose it to race. Probably not would prefer a current thre digit J.

Would I be happy with it as a small coastal. You betcha.

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Smack, I don't think there is a rush to join the group. Swan, HR, Grand Soliel don't want to be Hunter. There is no rush by quality builders to be at the bottom.
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So Goat, How about going into your User Profile and updating your Signature Line? Are you planning on taking your PSC down to Mex?
Done. I think. I'll see once I've posted this.

Mexico is the plan for next year, I've got my finger on the 'notice to employer' trigger. If things go as planned; retirement in 134 days 19 hours and 20 minutes (not that I'm counting), bum around B.C. for a couple months, then work my way down to Gulf of California for the winter. Get me some fish tacos.

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Don, it seems according to the story Out told, the wife of said Hunter owner is embarrassed by their choice of boat? How does your wife feel about this?
My wife loves our Hunter. But of course to a salty internet expert troll like you that is probably a negative.

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Re: In praise of production boats!

I why wonder why it seems some people can't understand the topic and instead have to play a word game to make up for it.






BTW - I'm pretty sure the reason is they don't want to be left out of the thread and a chance to restate all their past posts in other threads.

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One thing that really bugs me are those who are “dumping” in this tread but yet too ashamed to put their boat model in their signature line. I’m proud of my piece of Tupperware, but apparently you guys aren’t.
I don't think you are pointing at me George. My boat is no secret. Still my thoughts may be relevant. Maybe. Perhaps I am just rambling. Again. I sail a lot of boats on delivery and so some of my contributions have a much broader application than just my own current or past boats. My signature is also plenty long enough. *grin*

Auspicious is a Hallberg-Rassy 40 #68. I love her dearly and she has been very good to me. She isn't perfect but I made a good choice for me when I was in a position to make that choice.

My opinions, to the extent they have value, have little to do with the boat I chose to purchase. That really isn't important. Experience and learning educate our opinions. THAT is what gives our contributions value. Now facts (with footnotes) are a different thing. Don't get me started on that or we'll be here all night.

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Re: In praise of production boats!

I should have pointed out: I would be just as proud of my boat if she were an Allied Chance 30-30 named "Chancey." A moment of silence please for Jon Eisberg in whose absence for whom I attempt to speak.
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I should have pointed out: I would be just as proud of my boat if she were an Allied Chance 30-30 named "Chancey." A moment of silence please for Jon Eisberg in whose absence for whom I attempt to speak.
Dave...I don't know you personally and would like to one day. Yes... Pause for Jon E.... He had great inputs all of us can endear to achieve one day... Now that he is gone it seems you are the best to fulfill those shoes and I'm sure he would have thought so... You have been very articulate without dividing anyone and your knowledge seems to be on the same par with Jon. I enjoy your posts and hope to learn from your exhaustive experience and wisdom.
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Re: In praise of production boats!

Yes, Guitarguy, I think you are on to something. There is a continuum of boats from completely production to one-of. Most production boats fall along that continum. Again, I'm reminded of the Santa Cruz Yachts factory. Lots of production assembly, and also lots of attention to individual details. They turn(ed) out great boats. Like many other production boats, not to everyone's taste; but they have their admirers. You'll notice I'm still using a larger definition of production boats. Took it from a dictionary (well OK, Wikipedia). It just seems appropriate. The term BeneJeneBavaHansHunterLinas, just dosen't fit. It's too restrictive. Tha's just opinion, you can use what you want, as shall I. I'm always open to other ideas, but I am more driven by data (like definitions from dictionaries) than anactodtal opinions. But all that is kind of like arguing about the number of angels on a pin. Using either definition, I'm much more interested in discussing boats.

So, I've discussed the Catalina 400 and the Sydney 38 in previous posts. Have any of you sailed on these boats? By the way, do you have praise for the Santa Cruz Yachts. Merlin is sitting at the boatyard here in Santa Cruz, waiting for it's make-over. Ohhh, that's going to be cool.
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Re: In praise of production boats!

The first boat I sailed was a hunter.
The first boat I bought was a Coronado (old production boat).
My wife learned on a Hunter.
They were all great experiences.
I want a new HR but I'm gonna make do with something less expensive.
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