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Curious Sailor 02-05-2016 10:28 PM

What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I've always been curious as to how far cruisers will go in a certain size vessel. I for one, have a 21' sailboat and often wonder how far it will take me...

So here is my question:what is the the longest distance you've sailed in the smallest boat you owned!?



The Curious Sailor

paulk 02-05-2016 10:51 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I paddled about a quarter mile down and across the harbor in a 5' plastic toy pool boat when I must have been about 10. I wanted to see if the hamburgers at the Country Club (across the harbor) were better than the ones at the Yacht Club. I didn't drown or have need of my life jacket. Decided that the burgers weren't worth the trip. The background of my avatar photo shows the Country Club's golf course. The boat in the middleground shows the influence of a hamburger forty years later.

Minnewaska 02-06-2016 06:08 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Robert Manry crossed the Atlantic in a 13ft boat in the mid-1960s.

In the end, I'm not sure these anecdotes translate to anyone else. One's success on any passage is influenced by a combination of one's specific boat and her condition, the skipper, the crew, the weather and luck.

sharkbait 02-06-2016 07:16 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Took an Ericson 27 from SF Bay to Barra Navidad and back. I'm on the East coast now and commute between the Carolinas and the Bahamas in a Cal 29.
The only problem I see with a 21' foot boat is that you have no place to store beer.

capta 02-06-2016 07:43 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I personally haven't traveled very far on a very small boat as I really enjoy my creature comforts. I do know of a young Japanese man who sailed a 19 footer from Japan to San Francisco. There is also a Mini Transat race for 21 footers.
So I'd say it wasn't a matter of how big the boat was, but the sailor's er xxxxs.

zeehag 02-06-2016 08:07 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
all over san diego bay in an 11 ft kite, aka newport 11
catalina and back to lost angeles frequently in a 25 coronado. (26.1 miles each way)

Jim_W 02-06-2016 08:11 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I sail the entire Chesapeake and Delaware bays in a 25' C & C and would go a lot further if i didn't have to work.

zeehag 02-06-2016 08:14 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
hay sharkbait did i meet you or was this before i got here???? i knew a fella in a ericson 27 in la cruz... he did a packing box of my rudder in exchange for some chain he needed... was that you???

krisscross 02-06-2016 08:31 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I stay for weeks at a time on my 20 foot Mirage 5.5m. Sail all over Pamlico Sound, NC. I could easily go to Florida if I had the time off work long enough for such a trip. I stay on weekends in my 16 foot Chrysler on an inland lake (Kerr). It is really cramped but can be done. It is warm and dry at night.
It is more about what kind of a trooper you are than what kind of a boat you have. But I would not go smaller than 20 feet for any kind of long distance sailing.

TomMaine 02-06-2016 08:45 AM

In a 9'6" sailboat, I've circumnavigated,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Curious Sailor (Post 3319817)
So here is my question:what is the the longest distance you've sailed in the smallest boat you owned!?
The Curious Sailor

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1626/...b9ab1fe8_b.jpg

... Cuttyhunk Pond. :) We've sailed many, many, harbors on the NE coast in this boat. In fact, in two small sailboats(under 10'), we've sailed hundreds of miles, many of those miles with 4 of us onboard.

But to your question, so far, we've sailed a Cape Dory 28 the farthest from our home waters. In our case, distance sailed from home - so far - had more to with our age at the time, than the boat.

These days I'm more engaged in the quality of the miles we sail, than the quantity.

mbianka 02-06-2016 10:21 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Sailed my 24 foot Bristol from Long Island out to Block Island, Cuttyhunk, Marthas Vineyard and Nantucket and all around Narragansett Bay. Even stopped off at Bristol Rhode Island to pick up a part at the factory. Sailed it to New York and Sandy Hook several times when going west.

FSMike 02-06-2016 10:25 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I wandered from St. Simons Is., Ga. through the keys to Tarpon Springs, Fl. in my 26' double ended gaff rigger. That was primarily harbor hopping, longest trip I recall was probably Marathon to Ft. Myers. Fun days.

mbianka 02-06-2016 10:26 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnewaska (Post 3319969)
Robert Manry crossed the Atlantic in a 13ft boat in the mid-1960s.

In the end, I'm not sure these anecdotes translate to anyone else. One's success on any passage is influenced by a combination of one's specific boat and her condition, the skipper, the crew, the weather and luck.

Got a copy of his book Tinkerbelle on my boats bookshelf. Great read about a man and his dream. Unfortunately, his life was cut short but, he did get to fulfill his dream.

Dancin' Bare 02-06-2016 11:17 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
A Laser from Catalina to Newport Harbor…. Michael Man sailed a Montgomery 15 from Newport to Hawaii in 1977ish

TQA 02-06-2016 11:18 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Jaguar 22 which is the UK version of a Catalina 22. She started me off in this cruising thing.

One summer did Troon to Stornoway and back rounding the Mull of Kintyre on the way out and transiting the Crinan canal on the return.

Next summer I trailed it down to the Adriatic and did Pula down to Albania and back.

dylanwinter1 02-06-2016 12:35 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 

ScottUK 02-06-2016 12:41 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
My wife and I once did a 4 month cruise in NZ on a 26'er. The longest non-stop passage was about 120nm. We now have a CC with an aft cabin - much nicer!!

dylanwinter1 02-06-2016 12:50 PM

Re: In a 9'6" sailboat, I've circumnavigated,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMaine (Post 3320073)
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1626/...b9ab1fe8_b.jpg

... Cuttyhunk Pond. :) We've sailed many, many, harbors on the NE coast in this boat. In fact, in two small sailboats(under 10'), we've sailed hundreds of miles, many of those miles with 4 of us onboard.

But to your question, so far, we've sailed a Cape Dory 28 the farthest from our home waters. In our case, distance sailed from home - so far - had more to with our age at the time, than the boat.

These days I'm more engaged in the quality of the miles we sail, than the quantity.


I plan on doing some miles in my sailing tender with no centre plate or rudder

just the steering oar



TomMaine 02-06-2016 01:36 PM

Re: In a 9'6" sailboat, I've circumnavigated,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3320385)
I plan on doing some miles in my sailing tender with no centre plate or rudder

just the steering oar


Sailing tender - no rudder - no centre plate - - YouTube

How do you hold your glass of wine, Dylan?

sharkbait 02-06-2016 01:40 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zeehag (Post 3320057)
hay sharkbait did i meet you or was this before i got here???? i knew a fella in a ericson 27 in la cruz... he did a packing box of my rudder in exchange for some chain he needed... was that you???

A gentleman never tells, a lady never asks

solarfry 02-06-2016 02:14 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Took a 16' Rebel sailboat to Catalina - Avalon and around other side to camp at little harbor. The ranger wanted us to leave as the place was empty. We ignored him and stayed two days the four of us. The girls liked the campground so ew went over regularly. Invited ranger to steaks and beer..

SaltyMonkey 02-06-2016 02:32 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Furthest? What the hell does that mean? If you sailed around the world back to your original position, the furthest distance you sayled IS ZERO.

Get your english right. You mean the LONGEST distance.

Curious Sailor 02-06-2016 06:09 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbait (Post 3319993)
Took an Ericson 27 from SF Bay to Barra Navidad and back. I'm on the East coast now and commute between the Carolinas and the Bahamas in a Cal 29.
The only problem I see with a 21' foot boat is that you have no place to store beer.

Lol... I'm going to install custom beer coolers... :svoilier:

dylanwinter1 02-06-2016 06:37 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbait (Post 3320449)
A gentleman never tells, a lady never asks

hip flask

dylanwinter1 02-06-2016 06:39 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey (Post 3320513)
Furthest? What the hell does that mean? If you sailed around the world back to your original position, the furthest distance you sayled IS ZERO.

Get your english right. You mean the LONGEST distance.

as my mother used to say......

"we are not at home to Mr Picky"

D

kenr74 02-06-2016 11:01 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
We sailed roughly 200 miles around Lake Huron's North Channel with my family of 6 in my previous MacGregor 22. That was before I got my "big" boat, a Chrysler 26.

drakeParagon 02-07-2016 12:56 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Is a Westsail 32 small enough? I single handed mine from Marsh Harbor, Bahamas direct to Newport, Rhode Island in 8 days.

dylanwinter1 02-07-2016 04:11 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
It is strange what people consider to be a small boat

I recently resigned my column at small craft advisor because I now have a 26 footer

which in my mind is a large boat - until I take it to a Solent Marina where it is dwarfed by the 45 foot twin wheel scoop sterned cheese wedges in their serried ranks.

D

Capt Len 02-07-2016 05:28 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
My first construction,SV Half Safe ,a gaff sloop rigged scow.over all length 5'8" beam 2.5 ' Sailed in near gale force winds to East Sooke (less than mile) AS if I had any choice in direction.

TomMaine 02-07-2016 08:10 AM

Re: In a 9'6" sailboat, I've circumnavigated,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3320385)
I plan on doing some miles in my sailing tender with no centre plate or rudder

just the steering oar


Sailing tender - no rudder - no centre plate - - YouTube

I've watched your simple sailing conversion to your tender. You get huge credit for getting it sailing without the hassle(that stops most conversions) of adding a rudder, mast step and most of all, a daggerboard slot and box.

That's a small tender to start with - about 8' - because(as you've explained), you need to car top it easily. I watched the video with that in mind.

This is the first I watched the video(which is fantastic, as all your video work is - top notch) to see how your conversion performs.

Ok, I'm impressed with how she sails. I still would like to see how it goes with a daggerboard and rudder. And for trim, I'd like to see it without the outboard sinking the stern.

Does this experiment make you think you might pick up a larger tender that would fit the two of you and the dog for more sailing off the big boat?

Thank you for the video.

zeehag 02-07-2016 08:14 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
sharkbait--if it WAS you, i am deeply appreciative of th e assistance that was rendered. if not-- whoot.. sailing an ericson 27 in open ocean musta been a gas.
they sail well.

dylanwinter1 02-07-2016 09:36 AM

Re: In a 9'6" sailboat, I've circumnavigated,...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TomMaine (Post 3321393)
I've watched your simple sailing conversion to your tender. You get huge credit for getting it sailing without the hassle(that stops most conversions) of adding a rudder, mast step and most of all, a daggerboard slot and box.

That's a small tender to start with - about 8' - because(as you've explained), you need to car top it easily. I watched the video with that in mind.

This is the first I watched the video(which is fantastic, as all your video work is - top notch) to see how your conversion performs.

Ok, I'm impressed with how she sails. I still would like to see how it goes with a daggerboard and rudder. And for trim, I'd like to see it without the outboard sinking the stern.

Does this experiment make you think you might pick up a larger tender that would fit the two of you and the dog for more sailing off the big boat?

Thank you for the video.



I bought the tender because I wanted a tender for Jill to row - she loves rowing and there is not much pleasure to be had from rowing a flubber.


When moving to and from the boat heavily laden then the outboard allows us to load more stuff

Plenty of room for three and the dog.

For rowing delight the tender needs to be as empty and light as possible - hence the removable mast step/false deck. everything comes out and is designed to go into the back of the Polo

Under sailing mode she will either be sailing with just me - in which case I will either leave the engine behind or put it on the floor of the boat.

I was prepared to fit a centre plate but see no reason now to put a centre plate in. By using the oar as a sort of steering leeboard she is quite close winded -= I was amazed and having the clear floor space makes it really comfortable when sitting on the bottom of the hull.

A rudder is not needed provided I am prepared top put in a couple of strokes with the paddle to get the bow through the wind

sailiong it just like a duck punt.



I am really, really happy with the way is sails, The dinghy is clinker which helps a bit, she has a deep forefoot and that long skeg.

the only downside is that the little wine glass stern has bugger all reserves of bouyancy so the engine on the transom has a bad effect on balance and when under engine I need to sit well forward.

Incidentally that was the engine the scrotes nicked

fekkers

http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/wp-...11-300x169.jpg


http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/wp-...10-300x169.jpg

travlin-easy 02-07-2016 11:48 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Sailed my old Catalina 27 from Perryville, MD to Cape Charles, VA and back, round trip about 500 miles as the crow flies, probably closer to 700 with all the tacking I did. Neat trip, had some rough weather near the mouth of the Patuxent River and holed up in a creek for three days waiting for better weather.

Cheers,

Gary :cool:

drakeParagon 02-07-2016 12:04 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Roger Taylor has single handedly sailed his simple 21 foot junk rigged sailboat Mingming for many thousands of miles, and months at sea at a time..

He sailed from the UK to many destinations and back ***without even stopping!!!*** -> Greenland, Jan Mayen, Iceland, Rockall, the Faroes, Svabard...


dylanwinter1 02-07-2016 12:28 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drakeParagon (Post 3321713)
Roger Taylor has single handedly sailed his simple 21 foot junk rigged sailboat Mingming for many thousands of miles, and months at sea at a time..

He sailed from the UK to many destinations and back ***without even stopping!!!*** -> Greenland, Jan Mayen, Iceland, Rockall, the Faroes, Svabard...

Go Small. Go Simple. Go Now. - YouTube


I don't understand Roger and his motivations. When I sail I love to be as close to the coast as possible - not for safety because as any fule sailor knows it is shore where the hazards are. But I am fascinated by the join between land and ocean. For me that is where it all happens - the wildlife, the history, the geography. It is a very full canvas.

Roger seeks a blank canvas - it is a sort of Zen I suppose.

For me the inspiration who showed that you could sail a partially prepared small boat to almost anywhere you choose to take her

is

this man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Acton

http://iditarod.smugmug.com/photos/13296618-M.jpg

drakeParagon 02-07-2016 01:12 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3321753)
I am fascinated by the join between land and ocean. For me that is where it all happens - the wildlife, the history, the geography. It is a very full canvas.

I miss inshore/coastal/day sailing so much! For the past few years most of our sailing has been offshore, all just focused on getting to the next country to plant ourselves down in a new port to stay for months at a time. For this upcoming Summer I'm planning to take a long hiatus from video editing (months in 1 port) and instead hope to spend most of my time sailing Paragon to every port that exists in the Faroes. And then in each port I want to sail our 9 foot sailing dinghy Wanda to explore the surrounding areas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3321753)
For me the inspiration who showed that you could sail a partially prepared small boat to almost anywhere you choose to take her
is this man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Acton

Thanks Dylan! I have never even heard of Shane Acton. What an adventure they had! So many incredible ports... His is another book that I MUST read. I am truly humbled by these voyagers.

Round-the-world Yachtsman Shane Acton And His Girlfriend Iris Derungs Stock Photo, Picture And Royalty Free Image. Pic. 32978491

solarfry 02-07-2016 01:45 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
You seem unable to read the restriction small boat. I know few people that go round world in an 8' to 10' boat. The op question is understood well by all other posters. If you sail aroun the world your "furthest" is the total miles traveled. Close to circumference of planet. Read it again slowly.

I hope I have added value to this thread.

SloopJonB 02-07-2016 02:02 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey (Post 3320513)
Furthest? What the hell does that mean? If you sailed around the world back to your original position, the furthest distance you sayled IS ZERO.

Get your english right. You mean the LONGEST distance.

When indulging in spelling & grammar Nazism it behooves one to check ones own spelling. :wink

SloopJonB 02-07-2016 02:03 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drakeParagon (Post 3321713)
Roger Taylor has single handedly sailed his simple 21 foot junk rigged sailboat Mingming for many thousands of miles, and months at sea at a time..

He sailed from the UK to many destinations and back ***without even stopping!!!*** -> Greenland, Jan Mayen, Iceland, Rockall, the Faroes, Svabard...

Yeah, but he's nuts. :eek:

guitarguy56 02-07-2016 03:48 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3321753)
I don't understand Roger and his motivations. When I sail I love to be as close to the coast as possible - not for safety because as any fule sailor knows it is shore where the hazards are. But I am fascinated by the join between land and ocean. For me that is where it all happens - the wildlife, the history, the geography. It is a very full canvas.

Roger seeks a blank canvas - it is a sort of Zen I suppose.

For me the inspiration who showed that you could sail a partially prepared small boat to almost anywhere you choose to take her

is

this man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shane_Acton

Totally agree... sailing along the coasts where one can admire the beauty of the shores, coves, cliffs, beaches, etc. are what we enjoy...
Many mansions and old historical homes span the coasts here along in Georgia with great sailing to many small islands towards the Hilton Head, SC vicinity and south towards St. Simon's offer up some nice contrast. Small boat or otherwise it's not the longest but the quality of where you sail. _/)

SloopJonB 02-07-2016 04:01 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 (Post 3321289)
It is strange what people consider to be a small boat

I recently resigned my column at small craft advisor because I now have a 26 footer

which in my mind is a large boat - until I take it to a Solent Marina where it is dwarfed by the 30 foot twin wheel scoop sterned cheese wedges in their serried ranks.

D

I've always regarded 20' as the dividing line between "small" and "big" boats - probably due to the need to keep the big ones in the water for the most part.

As for "How far", Webb Chiles sailed most of the way around the world in an open 18' Drascombe Lugger. When that was happening I remember thinking that proved there was no lower limit on the boat, only on the skipper.

drakeParagon 02-08-2016 01:13 AM

Here’s to the crazy ones.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloopJonB (Post 3322017)
Yeah, but he's nuts. :eek:

Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

chachere 02-09-2016 10:49 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Circumnavigated Manhattan on a Sunfish a dozen years ago. One very long day on a very little boat. Got stopped by the harbor police as we sailed by the United Nations who wanted to know what the hell we were doing out there....

willyd 02-10-2016 10:50 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloopJonB (Post 3322009)
When indulging in spelling & grammar Nazism it behooves one to check ones own spelling. :wink

But his point was semantic, not orthographic or grammatical.

Andrew65 02-16-2016 05:08 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
I once took a seakayak on a 300km roundtrip trip from Oslo,Norway to an island (North Koster) in Sweden. The trip was 12 days total (7 down the fjord and 5 back up it) with camping on the coast each night. It wasn't terribly difficult if you showed good seamanship - hugging the coast when appropriate; never crossing large bodies or congested waters at known busy times of the day; and stopping off along the coast when tired or hungry. It's all relative when in either large or small boats. I sorta cheated though on the way back up Oslofjord. I had made a 9 square meter triangular sail out of spinnaker cloth that I propped up ( 2 sticks in sleeves on the sides) in front me to sail home. It was a hoot because the winds are always from the South in the summer. I could drop the sail or reef it by rolling it up in strong gusts and sail cross wind. The worst part of the trip was the knuckleheaded motorboaters that would zoom passed to check me out. It was a wonderful trip though.

chef2sail 02-21-2016 05:29 AM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Sailed a hobie 16 from Ocean City NJ to Lewes Delaware , slept overnight on the trampoline in the state park so the crabs wouldn't annoy us. and back the next day
16 foot sail boat averaging 14 knots
Beer and cooler in one of the hulls

Those were the simpler days������

Tanski 02-21-2016 01:14 PM

Re: What's the furthest you've sailed in the smallest boat?
 
Across the Bay of Chaleur (Atlantic Ocean, New Brunsick) and back in a 16' open dingy (Mistral 16), about 25 miles each way.
That would be my longest sail in the smallest boat.
Also had a real blast in the same area sailing a Hobie 16 in the tag end of a hurricane, Only time I have ever worn a helmet sailing.
Until last summer I owned a cottage there. Just outside of Bathurst.


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