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This happened in the harbor below my house yesterday. US Virgin Islands video shows luxury yacht fire at Charlotte Amalie harbor | Daily Mail Online


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Geez, that looks like a "torch" job.
Sure looks like accelerants were used to get that nice fire going.
Insurance?
Somethings fishy here.

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I work in gaming and spend most of my time in private suites. Betting 100k a hand, see how fast one can lose 10 mil. It happens far more often than most people think. 😀

No they don't care much about the money, it's the not winning that pisses them off. It's all about control.
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Most are not famous, you probably never heard of them. They have real money that generates unbelievable wealth, athletes and movie stars mostly can't sustain.

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Geez, that looks like a "torch" job.
Sure looks like accelerants were used to get that nice fire going.
Insurance?
Somethings fishy here.
I doubt it. bOats areby definition accelerants. Most of the materials, chemicals, and fuel we use will go up like a torch if given half a chance. Once a fire gets started there is almost no stopping it.

The same thing happened to a yacht at about 90% complete here in New Orleans. It was supposed to be finished in time to act as a spectator boat for the Americas Cup, burned to the hull instead in about an hour.

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Geez, that looks like a "torch" job.
Sure looks like accelerants were used to get that nice fire going.
Insurance?
Somethings fishy here.
I was wondering how you can tell the difference, just from photographs, between a fire that's burning fiercely because the boat is one big accelerant, and one that's burning fiercely because accelerant was added?

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Something fishy?

Yeah, it's not possible that a crew member wanted some popcorn and forgot a pan-ful of cooking oil over a flame . . .


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Geez, that looks like a "torch" job.
Sure looks like accelerants were used to get that nice fire going.
Insurance?
Somethings fishy here.
Polyester resin is a petroleum product. I've seen dozens of fires on boats burning that fiercely and not one was a "torch" job. The whole boat is an accelerant.

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Polyester resin is a petroleum product. I've seen dozens of fires on boats burning that fiercely and not one was a "torch" job. The whole boat is an accelerant.
It needn't be. I've seen "G10/FR" rated "Fiberglass" go through the most incredible abuse, and come out of it badly scorched, but not much else. (That Raccoon that got across the 12KV Buss Bars was just a reminder of itself; a greasy layer of singed hair on the Transformer Shed walls... and the Transformer, the Insulators, the Buss Bars... yes, Raccoons can explode.)

The FR of the "G10/FR" rating refers specifically to Fire Retardant, commonly obtained by the addition of Bromine compounds. The G10 refers to specific sets of standards for Epoxy-Impregnated Fibered Glass, standards commonly applied to Printed Circuit Boards, or anything else Electrical that needs strong Fiberglassed Insulation.
That "FR" rated Polyester Resins aren't commonly available is due to lack of demand, no matter how many hulls burn to the waterline.
But the Tech is around:
Patent US6291574 - Polyester molded articles - Google Patente

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Just try pricing an entire boat out of FR10.

But it's worse than that. Take a look at the 10,000 gallons of diesel that boat likely carries, all the wood and varnish, on board stores of gasoline, paint, gallons of oil, even the deep fat fryer on board.

Even on all steel military vessels the single biggest fear is a fire.
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"A fire at sea will ruin your entire day."

Any word on cause?


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