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Make sure you use the right 303. There is an "Aerospace" product and a fabric protector. DO NOT use the Aerospace stuff...I speak from experience! Tuned the bimini into a sieve! Lucky for me, I scrubbed it off with soap and water and the 303 fabroc protector went on and stayed on.

And, we have some of that starlight effect in our bimini yet we get no leaks, even in a few places where it puddles up or when it rains HARD. We are on year 8 with our sunbrella bimini, the last 4.5 years full time cruising.
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"ScotchGuard" was reformulated in 2000 to be less potentially environmentally dangerous. The original formulation would last approximately 5+ years (half life) in service; the new enviro-friendly version only last a few months (half life).
The original formulation contained PFOS, one of the most stable chemicals ever synthesized. The reason for the abandonment was that since its one of 'the' most stable compounds ever produced, no one can predict the long term effects on the environment, people and animals, etc. PFOS was beginning to show up in the background chemistry of 'all' animals ... the stuff was beginning to be found 'everywhere and within every living organism'. Quite 'responsible' to remove it from the marketplace.
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The Inside Story: 3M and Scotchgard Note: this is a 10 page sequence report. You have to 'click' on next page on each page to read the entirety of the report
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I've noticed that my dodger and sail cover seem to be getting a bit faded and ready for some kind of treatment. Have seen a few different products and am inclined to use the Scotchguard line if only because they've been around forever. Has anyone tried the other brands like Starbright for comparison. I think I used Starbright last time; about three years ago. It worked ok but it seems that it has dissipated. How often do others recoat?
Do you tend to use your dodger all year long? If so, there are many types of hard materials that dodger tops/roofs can be made of. Just google diy dodger, "hard tops".
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Do you tend to use your dodger all year long? If so, there are many types of hard materials that dodger tops/roofs can be made of. Just google diy dodger, "hard tops".
Have thought about building a hard dodger but I like to be able to collapse a dodger completely for carrying the mast bow to stern, low and stable, under low obstructions. The mast sits nicely from pulpit to pulpit without any huge sawhorse construction:-). I do my own sewing, so making replacements are not big expense items.

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"ScotchGuard" was reformulated in 2000 to be less potentially environmentally dangerous. The original formulation would last approximately 5+ years (half life) in service; the new enviro-friendly version only last a few months (half life).
The original formulation contained PFOS, one of the most stable chemicals ever synthesized. The reason for the abandonment was that since its one of 'the' most stable compounds ever produced, no one can predict the long term effects on the environment, people and animals, etc. PFOS was beginning to show up in the background chemistry of 'all' animals ... the stuff was beginning to be found 'everywhere and within every living organism'. Quite 'responsible' to remove it from the marketplace.
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The Inside Story: 3M and Scotchgard Note: this is a 10 page sequence report. You have to 'click' on next page on each page to read the entirety of the report
As usual, a lot of great information. Thanks Rich. Makes one wonder how this issue, with such widespread contamination, seems to have had minimal coverage by media. Our generation has lived through so many chemical poisoning events it's amazing any of us has survived:-)

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"ScotchGuard" was reformulated in 2000 to be less potentially environmentally dangerous. The original formulation would last approximately 5+ years (half life) in service; the new enviro-friendly version only last a few months (half life).
The original formulation contained PFOS, one of the most stable chemicals ever synthesized. The reason for the abandonment was that since its one of 'the' most stable compounds ever produced, no one can predict the long term effects on the environment, people and animals, etc. PFOS was beginning to show up in the background chemistry of 'all' animals ... the stuff was beginning to be found 'everywhere and within every living organism'. Quite 'responsible' to remove it from the marketplace.
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The Inside Story: 3M and Scotchgard Note: this is a 10 page sequence report. You have to 'click' on next page on each page to read the entirety of the report
Yup, squares with my experience.

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