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My wife and I watched All is Lost and Gravity in the same week. We thought they were almost the same movie, except that Gravity was well done and All is Lost was poorly done.
Well, to buttress what midwesterner was saying above, its just as easy to pick apart Gravity. As sailors, we know where to call BS in All is Lost...but as someone who also knows a thing or two about spacecraft and orbital mechanics, its even easier to knock a bunch of holes in Gravity.

What I'll say about both movies is that they each had excellent direction and even more excellent acting...but suffered from implausible plots...at least to anyone in the know. But that's true of most movies. General audiences though are going to be more than happy.

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I was SO disappointed that he survived.
Did he? I'm not so sure. Was it a rescuer's light or THE light.
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Re: The movie "All Is Lost"

This movie and it's many shortcomings have been discussed many times here over the years. For those that are new to the discussion, start here:

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...st-thread.html

Movie "All is Lost" I have never laughed so hard

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Golly gee, how did I ever manage a circumnavigation under sail without one single item you mentioned in your scenario?
Are you saying you don't have epirb ssb and all that other happy horse crap. I figure I don't go out there to be found and when there's no wind I take down the sails turn on the anchor light and get a good nights sleep. Do you do that too?

Since seeing this flick (which I saw a day or two before I made my first solo passage to the Caribbean) whenever the wind starts to really kick I say "I think I need a shave".
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After learning a teaspoon of physics, or picking up computahs as a hobby, or even just gaining basic reasoning skills, it becomes immediately apparent that movies are not where you go for realism. Its not an encyclopedia, its a piece of art.

Folks who think the lack of realism in All is Lost is at all noteworthy seem to have gone this long without identifying the identical problems that exist in pretty much every other movie on earth. *THATS* amazing.
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Yeah, but this is a tough crowd. It was not meant as a sailing movie. It is like watching ER or Chicago Med with doctors and nurses, or watching Backdraft with firemen. Or, it's like watching any movie with guns, with somebody who....well...who actually knows something about guns: "That gun he's using only holds 8 rounds and he just fired it 15 times."

So for people who aren't sailors, and who don't know about EPIRBs, and who don't know that most cruising sailors have as many as 4 or 5 types of radio communications as back-up, it is probably a suspenseful movie.

I live in the Midwest and I know lots of people whose idea of boating is to take a 16 foot bass boat out on a 300 acre lake for an afternoon of fishing. When I tell them that I intend to spend much of my retirement on a sailboat on the ocean they respond as if I had said that I have a plan to swim the ninety miles from Florida to Cuba.

There is a huge number of people who have no idea what cruising sailing is all about. For them, that movie would be thrilling.

I'm also thinking about the movie director, if he had a true cruiser sailor to serve as technical advisor on he movie:

Director: "Ok, the movie script calls or the guy to be stuck at sea with no means of communication, in a situation where he is completely helpless and requiring him to rely solely on his survival skills right up until the point where he has no options left and has to give up any hope of survival".

Technical Advisor (TA): "Well, there is no way that could happen."
Director: "Well say his radio gets wet."
TA: "Well he'd use his SSB radio to alert sailor's net."
Director: "Well, let's say that gets wet too."
TA: "Well, he'd use his SAT phone."
Director: "Well, say that gets wet also, or he doesn't have one for some reason."
TA: "Well, that's unlikely, but he'd get out his handheld back up VHF from it's waterproof box and call a passing freighter."
Director: "Ok, well, let's say that got wet or he doesn't have one for some reason."
TA: "Well, that is really unlikely and just wouldn't happen. But he'd still have his EPIRB that he could trip and it would relay a distress call via satellite from anywhere in the world that would report his exact location to a worldwide emergency response system."
Director: "Hmmm, I didn't even know they had those. Well that really ruins the whole story. But we already bought this book and I have to make this movie. Most people probably don't know about those EBURP things. We'll just say that they don't exist or he didn't have one for some reason."


I can imagine some conversation like that.
I work in gaming. I dealt, I taught dealing for years, it's my career. I've had some limited exposure to working with gaming in ads, shorts or movies.

I cringe everytime I watch a dealer on the screen. Even when I helped out with the technical side of dealing in a shoot, it gets to the point that you just give up because no one cares but you that it would never look like that, be done like that, happen like that or be said like that.

It was a great learning experience, now, even the Viagra ad with the tow rope and the backwinded jib does not bother me

Im sure it happens with everyone, be it cops or truck drivers or pilots, or hookers. That's why it's a movie and not real life.

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Are you saying you don't have epirb ssb and all that other happy horse crap. I figure I don't go out there to be found and when there's no wind I take down the sails turn on the anchor light and get a good nights sleep. Do you do that too?
Since seeing this flick (which I saw a day or two before I made my first solo passage to the Caribbean) whenever the wind starts to really kick I say "I think I need a shave".
No, I haven't shaved since high school and I do not get an urge to do so, even in heavy weather.

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The movie would have been great if "Our Man" didn't talk so much.

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My wife and I watched All is Lost and Gravity in the same week. We thought they were almost the same movie, except that Gravity was well done and All is Lost was poorly done. (And of course, the ending of Gravity might have been less ambiguous.)

As to All is Lost, we understood that it was not intended to be a movie about sailing, but rather about one man's struggle against increasingly powerful (and bitter) adversity.
Even so, you just don't get to make up stuff that is already known -- you gotta get the sailing right. And they could have, I think it was just more expedient to their "drama" to do it their way. A waste of brilliant actor's talent and a nice boat.
That's pretty good. a movie with a guy on a sailboat that sinks and its not about sailing. I would buy that if it had some other redeeming story or concept except the Redford. really it had so many poor continuity points it was hard to watch as a sailor or not.
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The movie would have been great if "Our Man" didn't talk so much.
Nahh.. Right from the outset it was a dud. It might have been okay in the Science Fiction category alongside "Battlestar Galactica".. but there's no Science involved; only Fiction.

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