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Interested in ways of cooking.
We wired and designed a locker for a microwave but never installed it. Now after a bit of experience realize microwaves may be great coastally but probably for most not necessary for offshore and not a good idea except on a really large boat.
We thought about stoves/ovens that didn't run on propane as finding and transporting propane can be a real PITA. But to date can't get excited about any of the alternatives. But still interested in peoples experience with diesel and electric devices
Next adventure is probably going to be a small hi tech pressure cooker. Curious about people's experiences with these.
Also you nearly always see a net hanging from the two posts holding the crockery locker up. That net is filled with fruit and some veggies. Anybody found a better and more aesethic way to store that stuff?
Finally guess cruisers are scared of vampires. Again something nearly always hanging in the galley is garlic. Taken to chopping it up. Goes in a jar with a bit of olive oil. Done. Also carry freeze dried flakes.
One of the great thing about cruising is spices and condiments. Different everywhere you go. We keep two draws of these. If still there and not used given away.

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We thought about stoves/ovens that didn't run on propane as finding and transporting propane can be a real PITA. But to date can't get excited about any of the alternatives. But still interested in peoples experience with diesel and electric devices
Where's John McEnroe? You can't be serious...
Get the propane.

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I do a lot of long offshore passages so decided to write a list of my top ten tips for provisioning a yacht:

Top 10 tips when provisioning a yacht - Halcyon Yachts

I'd love to hear your thoughts? Any other top tips out there?

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Again something nearly always hanging in the galley is garlic. Taken to chopping it up. Goes in a jar with a bit of olive oil. Done.
Careful, Doc. Read up on garlic in oil and botulism. Like here https://theolivepress.com/news-blog/...l#.V0HB3VQrKCg
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Re: How do you provision for a long trip?

cheese works yes. and so does propane, easily found in many places outside usa.
garlic in its own lil casing it comes with keeps forever and even grows in size. awesome stuff. use as needed and doesnt require special handling.
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One of the items we buy are the Badia brand of small packages of herbs/seasonings which sell in most ethnic stores for 59-69 cents each. We buy multiples of these packages as they are air tight sealed and will last many years. We use most of it when opened in less than a week's time... so they are always fresh. We keep the same packages in the boat for ready use when cooking.

The other items as mentioned are fresh garlic (can't beat the freshness) but have the bottled crushed, and powdered garlic in those little Badia packages.

The items we wish we could use fresh are tomatoes, celery, parsley, oregano, etc... things we grow at home but rarely could use on the boat unless they are brought over. These can be obviously brought fresh at markets when cruising.
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I saw a cruiser in the Florida Keys that had planter boxes fit on his gunwale and held in place with bungee cords. He had three tomato plants, two pepper plants and a variety of spices growing in them. He had a neat, non-evaporative system to decrease watering frequency, which was nothing more than some plastic wrap over the planters that prevented the moisture from escaping the soil, while the plant protruded through the plastic wrap. It seemed to work pretty darned good. When it rained, he captured rainwater for plant watering as well as domestic use. He said the biggest problem with the tomatoes and peppers was they all seem to ripen the same day and he had way too many of both. He said he was going to begin staggering his planting times so they would not all ripen at the same time. Pretty ingenious, I thought.

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I saw a cruiser in the Florida Keys that had planter boxes fit on his gunwale and held in place with bungee cords. He had three tomato plants, two pepper plants and a variety of spices growing in them. He had a neat, non-evaporative system to decrease watering frequency, which was nothing more than some plastic wrap over the planters that prevented the moisture from escaping the soil, while the plant protruded through the plastic wrap. It seemed to work pretty darned good. When it rained, he captured rainwater for plant watering as well as domestic use. He said the biggest problem with the tomatoes and peppers was they all seem to ripen the same day and he had way too many of both. He said he was going to begin staggering his planting times so they would not all ripen at the same time. Pretty ingenious, I thought.

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for those not underway, this works. if you are underway or constantly relocating, this will not work.
the long range cruisers i have met with gardens use hanging items and while underway keep em out of the salt water environment. pilot houses are good locations for gardens--anywhere away from salt air and water.even fog kills as it introduces salt to the soil. salt kills plants.
bubbas lawn grass died many times--each time from introduction of salt to soil, whether from ocean splash or from foggy air.


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I saw a cruiser in the Florida Keys that had planter boxes fit on his gunwale and held in place with bungee cords. He had three tomato plants, two pepper plants and a variety of spices growing in them. He had a neat, non-evaporative system to decrease watering frequency, which was nothing more than some plastic wrap over the planters that prevented the moisture from escaping the soil, while the plant protruded through the plastic wrap. It seemed to work pretty darned good. When it rained, he captured rainwater for plant watering as well as domestic use. He said the biggest problem with the tomatoes and peppers was they all seem to ripen the same day and he had way too many of both. He said he was going to begin staggering his planting times so they would not all ripen at the same time. Pretty ingenious, I thought.

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This would work if there was plenty of room to have those planter boxes... not sure under way... The soil itself could be protected from salts by carefully sealing the trunk/stem and soil. Watering frequently with fresh water and soaking the pots in a bucket with fresh water ensures you leach the salts out... we do this for plants at home. Staggering the planting times ensures year round crops and we do this with vegies by starting them in the greenhouse while harvesting the ones ready to eat. Actually a sailboat big enough to have a small greenhouse (pop-up variety) would be the best combination of growing the plants and keeping them out of the salt air. Here is one of our gardens with herbs/flowers.
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Re: How do you provision for a long trip?

The planter boxes I saw were purchased from Home Depot and were designed to fit on deck railings, either a 2X4 or 2X6. He had three of them on his transom, and they didn't hinder anything. I think the plastic wrap prevented the intrusion of salt water from the air, and only the plant stem itself was exposed to the air - not the soil or roots.

His sailing activities consisted of traveling the East Coast from Maine to the Florida Keys, inlet hopping up and down the coast, so I'm not sure how much exposure the plants had to heavily laden salt air. The plants appeared very lush, full and healthy when I saw them.

Personally, I thought it was a neat idea, and it appeared to be working just fine under those circumstances.

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