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Alright guys and gals, I just purchased a 40 foot schooner, and I'm looking for some advice on getting the best performance out of her. Full keel, long and shallower than most, as are a lot of schooners, for some reason. The things I've learned is that you actually get better MMG to windward by easing sheets, and sailing more off the wind than you would in a sloop, building up hull speed and keeping lots and lots of water moving down the boat. Also a little jib backwinding on tacks helps a ton with swinging the bow and keeping speed up.

I really like the fact that I can deal with all the sails by myself including reefing, without an autopilot, just by a quick de-sheeting of the sail I'm about to work on, and then balancing the other two to carry the boat while I work on the other one.

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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

So what makes this a schooner? What's the sail plan? why is this not a Ketch or a yawl? Where is the wheel?.....Dale

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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

My little schooner is 32' overall, and gaff rigged. It probably sails somewhat differently than your rig.

You are correct in saying that the best way upwind is by keeping your speed up and not pinching too much. I'll also suggest that a schooner will do best when the sails are balanced well.

I try to carry as much sail as possible, without overpowering too much. It makes tacking easier, and helps upwind.

In very heavy winds, I can do ok with a reefed main and jumbo. Whatever balances best is the key.



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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

Lake Superior Sailor; The foremast on a schooner is shorter than the main mast. Historically schooner's were considered to require less strength and skill to sail than a sloop. Reputedly you need only a man and a boy to sail a schooner. On the Hudson River schooners supplanted sloops when changes in labor practices at the docks made the large crews of the sloops superfluous.

On ketches the mizzen is forward of the rudder post. On yawls the mizzen is aft of the rudder post.
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This is a cross as the sail plan is wrong...Dale

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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

Not getting your point Dale.. Why is this not a schooner rig? Main mast aft seems to clinch it?

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Dictionary says it should be rigged gaff or with square....Dale

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The dictionary you are using is not correct. Some schooners have gaff rigs and some have Marconi rigs.
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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

Yeah.. I think its more about the mast arrangement.. and if a 'schooner' has a foremast with square rigging it becomes a Brigantine. Plenty of 'modern' Schooners that are marconi rigs, and some of them have identical height masts. As soon as the aft mast becomes a shorter mizzen you're back in ketch/yawl territory.

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Re: Schooner sailing tips!

Britanica encyclopedia on the internet .....Can they be wrong on the internet?.....Dale

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