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Re: "Only race boats need a traveler"...

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I wonder if they teach sail shape control in the ASA courses?
No, not in the ASA101 basic keelboat class I took. There are so many hours of class and sea time. I don't believe there is enough room in that type of class to get into the depth of sail shape. It's way too much and might be a put-off for some people.

If I remember correctly, we had about 10-12 people in the class, then split up into different 24 ft Hunters.

Some people could have handled more info as we sailed, for others it was a struggle to keep the boat moving. Some people take to the tiller naturally and others...

A few couples and in one or two instances 1/2 of the couple was just learning to be able to sail in a pinch. I know this because the instructor took an in-class poll as to who was in the class and why.

Lots of safety and rules of the road. We spent a lot of time on figure 8's, quick gybe, and dousing sails-starting the engine. Learning how hard it is to even keep your eye on the person in the water.

We did go over reefing and he tried to drive home the importance of flattening sail, but without time and weather I think it was lost to some of the people in the class.

I spent my first couple of summers sailing with the traveler as far to windward and the rail as deep in the water as I could get it. I was oddly addicted to sailing close hauled. I would go out in any weather, I probably scared some of my friends out of sailing. Not on purpose, I though they would be having fun if they where cold, wet and hanging on for dear life. I was reading books that said I was going slower but not caring if it felt faster
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Re: "Only race boats need a traveler"...

^^ I've always felt the joy of sail is figuring stuff out for yourself.

* Read books. Think deeply about what you have read. Don't just accept "do this." Understand why.
* Follow forums. Lots of good tips. But they will not always be in clear context.
* Sail next to other sister boats. Are you slower? Adjust something, one thing at a time.

Yes, there are many factors, but they are focus on the same things:
* Keeping flow attached.
* Deflecting the maximum amount of air downwind and reaching.
* Maximum lift/drag up wind.
* Adjusting for waves, vertical wind gradient, gusts, and shifts.

And this is what the strings do, by allowing you to twist and shape the cloth.

The fun is figuring it out!!

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Re: "Only race boats need a traveler"...

I don't think I've ever seen a cruising boat that didn't have a traveler. Offshore boats are typically designed with them as well - clearly they are for more than "racing".

But then again, I like balanced sails.......
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Re: "Only race boats need a traveler"...

The ASA's racing sailors/instructors do. Or, at least, when I taught sailing the traveller was essential.
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Re: "Only race boats need a traveler"...

Are there really people don't need/want a traveller? How about a vang?
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