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I had a bad experience with a PopYacht broker. I will never even look at one of their listings again.

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Re: Pop Yachts - brokers or scammers?

One question for you all who have recently dealt with POP Yachts.

When I was looking 2+ years ago it seemed to me that they were claim jumping for sale listings. As in they were listing boats for sale that were not actually listed with them...in an effort to get you to work with them to buy a boat. Have any of you come across this??


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Re: Pop Yachts - brokers or scammers?

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"you're going to force me to register before you'll even show me "
I expect that is just one more example of a company (in this case, the parent company itself) trying to monetize everything, gathering up your demographics to sell them. Someone is willing to pay them for every "potential boat buyer" they can name, and when you sign up...you've been datamined. So, step right up and join the game, send the emails to your favorite local FCC chairperson or other deserving entity. Heck, its only karma, right?(G)

They seem like an "MLS" for people who want to be self-employed boat brokers. You find a boat someone is selling, copy it to your PY account...and if you're lucky, get a split. Or something to some similar effect, from what I've seen. And just like real estate brokers (who aren't "Realtorsģ") hey, if the broker is on their toes...all the same to the buyer, right?
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I expect that is just one more example of a company... gathering up your demographics to sell them.
Yeah, I think you're right. It does seem that their business plan has more to do with collecting e-mail addresses than it does with selling boats.
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Re: Pop Yachts - brokers or scammers?

I contacted them a couple years back about a boat and had a good experience with the broker I dealt with. Did not get past the offer stage.

They use a marketing automation system for ongoing marketing (which I don't see a lot of in this industry) which is the reason for the quicker push to collect an email address (my opinion from looking from the outside in).

I got the feeling they are more of an "association" type of arrangement selling leads to various brokers.


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Re: Pop Yachts - brokers or scammers?

I don't think I'd call Popyachts itself a "scam".
They are more like the real estate MLS, or Amazon, ebay, Alibaba, and every eastern bazaar. It seems pretty much that anyone can sign up, use the Popyachts "umbrella", and then proceed to try posting and selling pretty much anything--without being bothered by things like having or needing a broker's license or other professional oversight.
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I don't think I'd call Popyachts itself a "scam".
They are more like the real estate MLS, or Amazon, ebay, Alibaba, and every eastern bazaar. It seems pretty much that anyone can sign up, use the Popyachts "umbrella", and then proceed to try posting and selling pretty much anything--without being bothered by things like having or needing a broker's license or other professional oversight.
No, nothing like an MLS. Yachtworld is the MLS and Popyachts was banned from there. So the answer to the original question is a resounding "YES!!". They supposedly had a boat in Maine for sale, broker was in FL. This was a couple years ago. They kept harvesting and harvesting my info. But would never tell me where the boat was. Supposedly in "Saco, ME." It was a lie. Too good to be true. They steal Craigslist photos and post them themselves, then approach the seller and try to get a commission. They charge fees to buyers, etc., etc. Absolutely no ethics. Now there's a new one that comes after you through Craigslist offering "free FSBO postings," then torments you by phone until you pay them $300.00. I offered to provide the guy's number to the Maine Attorney General's office and never heard from him again.
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My complaint is that you have to register before you can even look at all of the photos. I'm a potential buyer and you're going to force me to register before you'll even show me what you have for sale!?! Give me a break!!! That's just stupid.
I couldn't agree more and I've been seeing realtors do this as well.

I usually just make something up, and if I think I'll be back more than once I save it.

I just did this for popyachts.com

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FWIW, I looked at a couple of models I'm familiar with and found their prices ranged from high to "are you high?"

I also noticed several of the boats I looked at had their names and home ports blurred out. I don't think I've ever seen that in a boat listing before.

It doesn't exactly give you a warm and fuzzy.
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POPYACHTS is a scam. Here is what I think they do. They look for boats on Craigslist and ebay and contact the seller and get them to agree
to have them represent their boat. They then mark up the original seller price 2X and then make a really flashy ad on Ebay and
Craigslist hoping to get you to over pay for the boat. How do I know this? I had been watching a boat in the Pittsburgh area.
It had been listed for a long time on craigslist locally. This ad stood out because the seller was listing it as a Chris Craft Baja.
Two manufacturers that were never related. The boat was also a wreck and had been sitting out for a long time. One day
while looking at local ebay ads I saw the same boat and same pics listed by POPYACHTS. The ad was glowing and
misrepresented the actual condition of the boat. I contacted the POPYACHTS broker regarding the boat. They got
back to me. When I said why was the boat listed locally for a price that was half of what they were listing it for. He
then became angry with the question and said owners can list them locally for what they want. So I am not actually sure if
the local owner was even aware that their boat was listed on ebay. I suspect not. I would say, if you are consider a boat listed
by POPYACHTS to search for the boat locally and do the deal with the owner and cut out mark up of the middle man. Pretty sleazy company
in my opinion. I suspect any positive reviews are made up by the company. I would avoid.
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Re: Pop Yachts - brokers or scammers?

Every time an add for a POP yachts boat comes up there is an add for Seatow on the page. what is that telling you.

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