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Active Captains has been incorporated within Garmin's Blue Charts for awhile. I just hope Garmin will be more customer oriented and less confrontational then the previous owner when submitting summaries and observations...
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Docwa / Polar Navy / Nobeltec / Rosepoint / Maxsea / MX Mariner, and their users, are not going to like this...

This kind of kills the value of AC, unless Garmin pledges to keep it an independent entity.
I don't follow why? Are you assuming Garmin will no longer allow AC integration into other navs?


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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

ActiveCaptain is a crowdsourced database. Its usefulness and accuracy are proportional to the number of people using it. Part of AC's appeal is that it is perceived to be platform independent.

I can only relate this in terms of my experience; What would have happened to Google if IBM or Sun Microsystems (now known as Oracle) had purchased them in 1996? Does anyone even remember the AltaVista search engine? AltaVista was owned by Digital Equipment Corp. (does anyone remember DEC?)?


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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

Seems to me that the crowd sourcing of cruising info has some value. It's subjective, not verified and should be taken with a grain of salt. It feels like an online real time cruising guide. And real time is the way publishing guides and so forth is and needs to go. Print is out of date before the ink dries.

I haven't used AC much... and I am not sure the advantage of integrating AC into a plotter over using it stand alone on a smart phone.

Can anyone who DOES use AC with a plotter... kindly explain?

I suppose Jeff wanted to cash out and good for him.
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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

Garmin could follow any one of the existing plans. Buy a Garmin car GPS, pay an extra $50 up front, and you get lifetime map updates and traffic.
Or buy the updates when and if you want them.

Buy an Escort radar detector, and you get a free year of crowd-sourced live radar reports, bought as a subscription after.

Garble Maps for your Android, constantly update for free but inflict you with ads and datamining. Or join into Waze, same owners, different ads.

Many ways that Garmin could decide to use AC either to generate sales, or income, or both. Seeing the way that everything on the web is so infested with ads and datamining these days...
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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

Great news!
Hearty congratulations to Jeff and Karen!

I love seeing where hard work finally gets bought up by some rich multinat giving real $$$ to real people!

Maybe they can work on for a few years with less stress and cruise more and more to they can cruise full time.

Garmin, like other nav companies is over priced, under performing, and old fashioned. They need to move ahead and do it fast before Google Earth takes over. Garmin sux.

I hope Jeff and Karen get plastered with a huge bottle of champagne. They deserve it! 🍸😁🍸
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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

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InReach is their GO!, but different...or something like that....
A corporate plan for marine
The Garmin InReach is a locator (like SPOT) on steriods, adding SMS. The Iridium GO! is a bona fide satellite terminal. Not really comparable.

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Maybe this will cut down their spam emails? I am continually getting emails to book new AC-listed harbors. Maybe Garmin will be able to track where I actually go (thanks to relaxed internet rules) and find out that I'm not a candidate for their advertising.
Log into ActiveCaptain (AC) and check your preferences. I get only two emails from AC each week, both newsletters that I signed up for. No ads at all. No solicitations.

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AltaVista was owned by Digital Equipment Corp. (does anyone remember DEC?)?
Do you know the PDP story? Why it was called a PDP? I grew up with a PDP-11, cut my teeth on an 11/750 and had a microVAX at home for a while.

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I haven't used AC much... and I am not sure the advantage of integrating AC into a plotter over using it stand alone on a smart phone.
I'm real happy with AC on a smartphone app. I use the plotter for navigation. The app on my phone, laying in my bunk below, gives me plenty of time for research and planning.

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I suppose Jeff wanted to cash out and good for him.
Jeff and Karen are serial entrepreneurs. This is not their first business. I know of three they have built from scratch and sold when the fun of doing something new and exciting transitioned to operations. I probably don't know about all of them. I expected this to happen someday. I hope there is a good long relationship between Jeff & Karen and Garmin. Jeff has a real personality and that sets a lot of people off. So what?

This acquisition could (could) lead to some really good stuff. Maybe we'll see AC on Navionics. Maybe we'll see AC on OpenCPN. I hope we won't lose the AC newsletter or Karen's Marina Minute.
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Does anyone even remember the AltaVista search engine? AltaVista was owned by Digital Equipment Corp. (does anyone remember DEC?)?
That example doesn't make your point. AltaVista was a DEC research project - invented, developed and deployed by DEC. It wasn't bought by DEC and then disappeared - it thrived under DEC. The reason for its demise was the purchase of DEC by Compaq, who then bastardized AltaVista into irrelevance.

So your point would be better pointing out what happened to DEC/AV when purchased by Compaq.

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Re: Garmin buys Active Captain

Not to hi-jack the thread how does Active Captain compare or differ from https://www.waterwayguide.com/?

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Not to hi-jack the thread how does Active Captain compare or differ from https://www.waterwayguide.com/?
AC is pure crowd-sourced. Waterway Guide is a bit of an amalgam. All info on WWG is vetted by professional boating editors and updated by paid on-the-water Cruising Editors (I am one). It also uses general crowd-sourced material from cruisers, but this all goes through a formal editorial check before being published.

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