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New boat, could be leaking anywhere. Right move, stay put until you think everything is perfect. Even then, go sailing for a few days and check everything before leaving town. This is not an exceptional experience IMHO, this is par for the course. Could be any through hull, running gear, anything that pumps salt water (AC, fridge, heat exchanger), keel bolts, hose clamp, whatever.

Don't leave until you think it's perfect, even then it won't be...but you'll be closer to right. Patience is the key now. Expect more hiccups. The quality of the yard/builder is determined now IMHO. Things will go wrong, how they handle it defines quality. Grace, humility, and thoroughness is the expectation and the mark of quality.

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Problem was with depth sounder through hull and has been fixed.
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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

So, are you set to cast off into the wild briny?

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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

This might help. This was our run from Panama City to St. Pete last July in our Hunter 40...



There's a live-fire missile test range in the Middle Grounds (around L11-03) that you'll see on the charts. We skirted the edge of it and did indeed get buzzed by an F-16, but fortunately no ordinance.

There certainly didn't appear to be much reason to hug the coast due to the shallowness and lack of anything up there - so a straight shot made the most sense to us.

Be prepared for squalls, but as long as there are no systems in the area, it was a pretty mellow 2-1/2 day motor-sail for us. You should have better luck with the wind direction than we did if you're heading NW. But make sure you've got plenty of fuel. The winds were very light on our run.

Have fun and be safe.
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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

I saw you mentioning that you will bring an extra jerry can or two because you can't motor the whole way (if needed). I'm not an ocean sailor but the one thing I have done on my Great Lakes sailing is over-prepare "just in case".

I'd highly recommend you bring more diesel than you will need to motor. Weather window or not, what if 1)someone gets hurt or sick and you need to motor a long way to help, 2)what if the boat has a major failure and the only option is to motor to safety, 3)what if your fuel tank leaks out virtually all it's diesel, or if your jerry cans leak or fall overboard. Bring more fuel than you will need, store it in a safe location. Bring a length of tubing to use as a fuel line in case your tank fails.

These are SAIL boats but the motor is your landing gear and your Fast-Forward to safety\help.
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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

We are in Panama City for a day or two prior to the final leg to the Destin area. It's been an interesting experience. I feel like I have been rained on more than any human being that has ever existed. This is the first time in 3 decades of sailing that I have been significantly seasick. We motored most of the way with motorsailing for about a third because we are trying to avoid some of the weather before Thursday.

After hitting what seemed like about two dozen rain storms on the way to Panama City we finally had relatively clear skies and smoth seas for the final entry into the harbor and marina, only to discover we couldn't shift the boat into reverse on attempting to dock (my friend, the owner, was planning on backing into the slip as per his usual method). We had used reverse during sea trial and at the beginning of this very trip to maneuver to fuel dock, leaving port etc.

I'd even suggested to my friend before entering the marina that he might want to practice a quick circle and attempt at a standing turn to get a feel for his new boat before docking, but we we didn't because we were trying to make it in before yet another in an endless series of rain showers (nothing involving significant wind or waves).

We weren't able to sort out what happened with his transmission after waving off our first docking attempt, but as conditions were perfectly still at that moment I suggested to him that we just creep into the slip in forward, the marina manager and her assistant were both there to help take dock lines and secure the boat, and this went well. My friend is still on the horn with the company to get the transmission straightened out before our departure.

Edit: we actually brought two 5gal jerry cans of diesel and wound up doing in transit refueling with one of them "just to be sure", which was a bit of an adventure in itself. We both think the boat has an odd location for the fuel port (on the transom, and on the opposite side of the boat from the pumpout port). The springloaded valve on the fuel nozzle on the jerry can was much more of a hindrance than a help, and using the simple old fashioned nozzle/funnel on the other can we brought would have been much better (the "safety valve" kept shutting off flow of diesel after doing the gymnastics to maneuver the can into position while trying not to fall off the swim platform).
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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

What marina are you at Skye? Panama City? We were there for a few days while getting a broken AP sorted. Nice people...though they weren't real helpful on the VHF when we were coming in. Glad to hear your trip was safe - bummer you got sick. The chop can definitely get steep and nasty out there with all those squalls.

As for the fuel transfers, this is the best thing I've ever had for doing that underway...



https://www.amazon.com/Super-Easy-Si...eywords=siphon

It would transfer 5 gallons in just a minute or two and wouldn't pick up junk at the bottom of the can. Pretty cool.
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What marina are you at Skye? Panama City? We were there for a few days while getting a broken AP sorted. Nice people...though they weren't real helpful on the VHF when we were coming in. Glad to hear your trip was safe - bummer you got sick. The chop can definitely get steep and nasty out there with all those squalls.

As for the fuel transfers, this is the best thing I've ever had for doing that underway...



https://www.amazon.com/Super-Easy-Si...eywords=siphon

It would transfer 5 gallons in just a minute or two and wouldn't pick up junk at the bottom of the can. Pretty cool.
A variant of the old Georgia Credit Card. Yeah we're at PCM and are pleased with it so far.
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A variant of the old Georgia Credit Card. Yeah we're at PCM and are pleased with it so far.
Georgia Credit Card. I like that. At least with the shaker device you don't get a mouthful of fuel.

We had a nice stay, though from what I recall there wasn't a whole lot of dining options near the marina. A couple of smaller places that were good.

Still - a good time.



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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

We're getting pretty close to casting off for Destin.

Yesterday we looked at the engine while working the shifter arm and saw that the shifter would put the engine in forward, neutral, and reverse, but the throttle cable would not move at all when in reverse, and the shifter arm had no travel in the reverse direction once in reverse.

The sequence of events was that the Marlow people had a Yanmar service guy come out, only to determine that the problem was not engine but transmission/transmission control as we already knew. After the engine guy left the Marlow people determined to send us people to replace the shifter arm. They gave us the go ahead to look at the shifter (we'd already taken down the shifter arm with the engine guy), and we saw that the lever arm that moves the throttle cable would get "stuck" at the position after the shift into reverse. By simply moving that arm by hand another 20 or 30 degrees through the "stuck" position it became unstuck and able to move through all the positions with throttle control. The problem was that it still felt kludgy and the gear looking items within looked dogeared to us. The fix was probably good enough to get us to Destin, and might have been okay if we were stuck on some island to get us to the next place but we wouldn't have great confidence over the longer term.

Basically we had almost the exact same problem as this guy, with the exact same gear as pictured, but with a somewhat different cause:

https://forums.sailboatowners.com/in...rottle.129146/

The last issue we are trying to work is the radio.

We didn't complete a transmit/receive radio check with Sea Tow before leaving Steinhatchee. Not even sure if Sea Tow has anything there, but we could have done it with a local marina. Receiving weather and USCG seemed fine.

On entering the channel at Panama City, we were unable to hail the marina on 16. Since tying up we were unable to get a successful radio check with Sea Town in Panama City on their automated system on 27, we also tried doing a radio check with their man on the telephone calling both channel 16 and 27, he couldn't hear anything with us transmitting on both 1W and 25W. We also tried a safety test DSC call to USCG also with no acknowledgment. The only successful radio check we got was to the Panama City Marina which we are literally sittiing 20-30 feet away from so as far as we could tell we have a receive only radio until proven otherwise.

Taking down the radio panel, and the area underneath the mast, the coax connections look okay, so the service guys are working this aspect before our departure.

Obviously we should have tested the radio transmitting to some other boat, marina or handheld prior to departure. The DSC transmission couldn't have been tested prior to taking possession and having an MMSI number programmed in.

Weather looks good for today and maybe even some decent sailing on the way.
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Re: Delivery of newly comissioned boat, FL Gulf Coast. Suggestions?

I use smacker's "Georgia Credit Card" all the time....not, er.,..in the implied illegal sense. Great device for spill free emptying jerry jugs.

IMHO you are still in the realm of expected failures on a new boat. Keep at it, it will take a few weeks to get all the bugs out. Sounds like all crisis handled very well so far. Good luck!
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