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What skills do you think one should master to be considered a competent sailor?

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Re: necessary skills

Diesel engine maintenance and repair

Splicing lines and eye loops, line to chain

Safety procedures....MOB and recover

Gelcoat color matching

Fiberglassing

Sewing sunbrella/canvas

Bottom paint prep and application

Motoring in a current

Sailing....trim, balance, tacking, gybing, heaving to

Anchoring & mooring

Knotwork - bowline, halyard knot, figure eight, cleat hitch, round turn 2 half hitches, reef/square knot, square knot for 2 different size lines

If you have the time and inclination...refrigeration and a/c.

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Re: necessary skills

Wouldn't it depend on:
1) position on board
2) Vessel size and type
3) area of operations
4) nature of operations


I would have different expectations of a
Skipper
On a 60 foot schooner
In the Labrador straight
Conducting a scientific charter

Than I would:
Rail meat
In a 30 foot production sloop
Racing around the cans
In Toronto Harbour
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Re: necessary skills

"Hand, Reef and Steer" is required for an "Able" rating according to the royal navy.

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Re: necessary skills

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Diesel engine maintenance and repair

Splicing lines and eye loops, line to chain

Safety procedures....MOB and recover

Gelcoat color matching

Fiberglassing

Sewing sunbrella/canvas

Bottom paint prep and application

Motoring in a current

Sailing....trim, balance, tacking, gybing, heaving to

Anchoring & mooring

Knotwork - bowline, halyard knot, figure eight, cleat hitch, round turn 2 half hitches, reef/square knot, square knot for 2 different size lines

If you have the time and inclination...refrigeration and a/c.
I agree on items 2, 9, 10, 11 and maybe 8 depending on where one operates. I don't see what the other stuff has to do with sailing competence though - especially gelocat color matching(!?).

I'd add:

Basic weather forecasting/knowing where to get weather information.

Understanding wind direction, velocity, fetch, and other factors that locally affect wind conditions.

Basic navigation and understanding of rules of the road.

Knowing your drafts - keel and mast - and knowing how to avoid striking objects above and below.

Knowing how, whom, and when to call for help using VHF, flares, EPIRB, cell phone and being able to report your position to SAR personnel.

Knowing how to bring the boat you're sailing back to its dock or mooring without damaging or destroying anything.

Understanding how to identify if a boat is seaworthy and adequately provisioned for the intended sail.
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Re: necessary skills

It depends on the type of sailing one wants to do: day sailing, world cruising, one-design racing, small boat/big boat, cat/monohull, etc. They all require different skillsets. Regardless of the type of sailing, if a person focuses on the following things, he or she will develop all of the necessary skills.

-Strengthening your sense of curiosity

-Sharpening your observation skills

-Becoming a quick learner

-Learning to be proactive about recognizing problems and solving them before they become serious

-Learning to take a systematic, deliberate approach to everything

-Developing communication skills

-Staying humble and Developing "quiet competence"

To "fast track" acquisition of the specific skills needed for a specific type of sailing, one can take the relevant courses offered by ASA or US Sailing. The points above constitute the bedrock philosophy of all of those courses.

My top recommendation to all sailors, novices and old salts alike, is to sail on lots of different boats and to invite other sailors to sail on your boat. Everyone can learn a lot by seeing how other people do things and by talking about an evolution as you do it. Even if your sailing companinion is a complete novice, your skills and knowledge will be sharpened by teaching them. And we shouldn't be afraid to broaden our experiences; if you are a cruiser, spend some time on racing boats and if you are a racer or day sailor, make some long distance passages.

And if you are a long-term cruiser, it helps to have a skill that you can use to make money to support your sailing habit.
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Re: necessary skills

situational awareness
risk assessment
good decision making
love of learning
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Re: necessary skills

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Originally Posted by night0wl View Post
Diesel engine maintenance and repair

Splicing lines and eye loops, line to chain

Safety procedures....MOB and recover

Gelcoat color matching

Fiberglassing

Sewing sunbrella/canvas

Bottom paint prep and application

Motoring in a current

Sailing....trim, balance, tacking, gybing, heaving to

Anchoring & mooring

Knotwork - bowline, halyard knot, figure eight, cleat hitch, round turn 2 half hitches, reef/square knot, square knot for 2 different size lines

If you have the time and inclination...refrigeration and a/c.
I know this wasn't meant to be funny, and it really isn't, but I still got a good laugh out of it.
Particularly ironic is just how far down that list "Sailing.... trim, balance, tacking, gybing, heaving to" is... in order to be a competent SAILOR! Sheeesh...

Sort of like the skills you need to make it as a popular musician..

1. Good hairdresser and makeup artist
2. Eyecatching wardrobe
3. Edgy or at least interesting image and personality
4. Great agent
5. Marketing and self-promotion skills
6. Web design skills
7. Quality music production equipment
8. Oh yeah... and maybe be able to play your axe or at least sing a little bit. This can help but, obviously, it certainly isn't necessary these days.

SO .. yeah... I guess it's more sad than funny as a musician. The quoted post about sailing isn't sad at all, fortunately, but truer than most folks just getting into it realize. I bought my boat because I wanted to learn to sail, but I've learned a LOT more about epoxy, woodworking, compounding, wiring, radio protocols, chartreading and navigation, rigging, painting, and host of other boat-related things than I have about the actual act of hoisting and trimming the sails, reading the wind, and pointing the boat where it should go. It's ALL good!

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Re: necessary skills

Some would argue all you need a credit card with a big credit line.
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