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Question Starting to think about my next boat...

I've been sailing my beloved Tartan 37 since 2004, but now a full time liveaboard and kids getting in to their teen years...with plans to go cruising for extended periods (3 - 6 months at a time). I'm starting to research what my next sailboat could be?

I expect this to be the start of a long journey to choose that next boat... find her in the next year or two.

Here are some of my initial thoughts:
- not set on a center or aft cockpit, but either should at least have two private berths and maybe two heads
- good sail plan for light wind but able to reef well = cutter rig sloop is my first thought
- no slug, I don't need nor want a racer, but I don't want a slow cruiser
- must have a swim platform
- 5 to 6 foot draft, centerboard fun keel okay
- 39 - 44 feet primarily for sea motion comfort and stowage for three people females and a drawer for me
- Budgeting $150 - $175k leaving $25k for MY upgrades
- condition of boat more important than age... I want close to that 2% boat, no extensive project boats.


Some that I like as I've started looking...
Bristol 44
Tartan 40
Caliber 40 ish
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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

With that requirement, I'd like to spend your money and move you up to a Bristol 47.7. I almost bought one of these boat 4, sailed it and really liked it. Nothing a like a center cockpit for 2 private berths and living space. A "little" over budget, but I'll bet you'd like it.

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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

Don't believe saying you want light air performance is compatible with many Bristols. Bristols I've been on need about 15knots of breeze before they start moving. Your Tartan 37 might be a better light air boat. Just looked at a J/40 that's being prepped for a couple's RTW plans. A J/42 might be more commodious for your needs, and sprightly as well. Budget would fit reasonably closely. Look around at a lot of boats. Looking is cheap and you could find something you hadn't thought of which fits your needs better than anything else.
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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

Good points regarding the Bristol...

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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

Hey,

What's wrong with a Catalina 42 or 400?

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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

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What's wrong with a Catalina 42 or 400?

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They don't make/made a cutter rig did they?

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Don't believe saying you want light air performance is compatible with many Bristols. Bristols I've been on need about 15knots of breeze before they start moving. Your Tartan 37 might be a better light air boat. Just looked at a J/40 that's being prepped for a couple's RTW plans. A J/42 might be more commodious for your needs, and sprightly as well. Budget would fit reasonably closely. Look around at a lot of boats. Looking is cheap and you could find something you hadn't thought of which fits your needs better than anything else.

I'm in the same BOAT as T37chef... looking to upsize. Don't agree with your comment on Bristols. 38.8, 41.1, 45.5 and even the original 40 all have lower base PHRF ratings than his T37.

Might not be as fast as your J36, but....

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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

A faster PHRF rating does not necessarily imply good light air performance.

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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

Re the Catalina 42:

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They don't make/made a cutter rig did they?
Not factory, I don't think... but there is a local 42 that has been so modified. I think it wouldn't be that difficult. Runners (if necessary) could be dyneema rather than wire. A Solent style rig might suit you too, in which case the inner stay may be high enough not to require runners. Perhaps a few grand of your $25K upgrade plan could include that kind of modification?

I think the C42s are a pretty good package overall, MkI or Mk II esp for coastal cruising and island hopping.

For true offshore work, I'd lean towards a Passport 40 or its various cousins (Tatoosh, Nordic, or perhaps a Norseman 447 or 400)
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Re: Starting to think about my next boat...

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Some that I like as I've started looking...
Bristol 44
Tartan 40
Caliber 40 ish

Lol you have obviously already made your mind up.

You don't mention the real facts: how many brats and what ages/gender. Do they/will they live aboard too whilst they go to school?

Not that I know much about kids (I saw a postcard of children once) but shouldn't you be looking at a catamaran?
Cats have 4 corners and you can keep a child per cabin as far from you and each other as possible.
If you only have 2 chilluns you can enforce them to live in one wing whilst you have the luxury of you own side far from their smell.

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