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Attempted to join Bayfield owners group on Yahoo with no success.

Considering a Bayfield 40 and would like to get build feedback from current and/or previous Bayfield owners.

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I have a Bayfield 36 and love her. The Bayfield 36 and 40 are very similar in hull design. The 36 has a cut away flat hull before the mast and the 40 does not. They are very well built boats with thick hand layed fiberglass hulls, full keels and protected prop. They were built for the great lakes which means they are blue water capable. The chain plates are attached to massive tabs on the hull. The deck is made so that no coring exists where hardware is bolted through. Therefore leaks won't typically compromise the end grain. They are stiff boats which, while not greyhounds, track well in stiff winds.

As they age, Bayfields are susceptible to rot in their bowsprits so that needs to be checked. Many have replaced them which isn't too difficult. As in many boats of this vintage engine access is tight.

They are good looking boats that will turn many heads. I like the modern aluminum toerail on thick bullworks.

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Thx for the nice summary Tod.

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I know a couple Bayfield owners who tried to join that group to no success. I think that group is inactive. Too bad.

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Boat 3 was a Bayfield 36 (now on boat 5). I had it for 4 years.

Here's the good stuff:
- Heavy hardware: portlights, cleats, chalks, winches, etc. Good stuff.
- Cutter rigged: great when the wind pipes up
- Full Keel/encapsulated: Stable, little attention required at the wheel, could balance this thing lock the wheel and walk away for 10 minutes and still be on course
- Room: Beamy, lots of room for length below
- Looks: If you like traditional looking, you've got it

The tradeoffs:
- Full Keel/heavy: Great reaching, and any boat will point, but nothing points like a blade keel and a spade rudder, and a high aspect rig. If great upwind performance matters, this is not it.
- Beamy: Although it's heavy, it has flat underwater sections, so it still can pound a bit as compared to an even more traditional narrow beam boat.

But listen, we liked it, and I'd buy one again. Every boat is a tradeoff. If my plan was to win the beer can race on Wednesday's, I'd pass. If my plan was to cruise, be comfortable, be a gentleman who avoids upwind sailing whenever possible, I'd buy one again.

Good luck with your purchase.
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The yahoo group is still active - I posted a message yesterday pointing out this thread, so hopefully you will get a few more replies.

I have a 32C, so cannot comment directly on the 40, but in general the Bayfields are very solidly built - thick layup, bolted hull/deck joint, solid chainplate mounts (already mentioned), good bulwarks (important for those of us with tendencies to drop stuff, or with small kids), and decent sized engines. The 32 has a balsa cored deck, except for load mounting points which are plywood cored, usually with steel backing plates. There are many smaller details that I appreciate - for example the stanchions have two mounting points - deck and bulwark - at right angles to each other, which makes them very solid and less prone to causing stress cracks in the deck.

As you are no doubt aware, these are not performance boats - the shallow draft affects the upwind ability, but they can carry a lot of sail so they can hold their own on other points of sail, and can still move well in light winds despite the displacement. I sail the Chesapeake, so for me the shallow draft is perfect and pointing ability is not an issue since I go out to sail rather than reach a destination. In my opinion, they make excellent cruising boats - stable, comfortable, and little drama. They are not to everyone's taste, but those that have them seem to stick with them.

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Thanks very much for the above replies. Yes, I noticed how the stanchions were mounted.
This will be our Caribbean cruiser - no schedule so Iím thinking pointing ability shouldnít be a deal killer.
As for the keel - does anyone know if the ballast is lead or iron?
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Thanks very much for the above replies. Yes, I noticed how the stanchions were mounted.
This will be our Caribbean cruiser - no schedule so Iím thinking pointing ability shouldnít be a deal killer.
As for the keel - does anyone know if the ballast is lead or iron?
Probably not a big deal for a boat that points OK, and is sailed with care, however, pointing ability can be a safety factor. If the occasion arises, for example, where you found yourself on a lee shore without engine power, it would be good to be able to claw back to sea without too much fuss.

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Thanks very much for the above replies. Yes, I noticed how the stanchions were mounted.
This will be our Caribbean cruiser - no schedule so Iím thinking pointing ability shouldnít be a deal killer.
As for the keel - does anyone know if the ballast is lead or iron?
I think it's iron. We had an issue with ours during survey were there was some water between the ballast the FG in one spot. We drained, dried, filled, and patched, had no problems after. This was all a while ago, but I think I remember the water being rusty...

Again, I'd still buy one of these if the performance meets your requirements. Very livable boat.
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Probably not a big deal for a boat that points OK, and is sailed with care, however, pointing ability can be a safety factor. If the occasion arises, for example, where you found yourself on a lee shore without engine power, it would be good to be able to claw back to sea without too much fuss.
Given that the USGC statistic indicate collisions (with either fixed objects or other vessels) account for the majority of accidents and injuries, and capsizing to be the accident responsible for most fatalities, I'd suggest that this should be pretty low down the list of concerns.


Re: ballast - everything I had read about the Bayfields indicates lead ballast.
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