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Re: Another newbe sank their boat

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I am not motivated to do heroic things. I am motivated to be considerate, helpful and respectful of other human beings.

About you registered user... were you taught to be a hero?
Hero and heroic are used differently.
And both are subjective.

You are the better and were not 'taught', so I have an opportunity to...learn from you.
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TIt's also a bit insane to give up your life to save another... but parents will do things like this.
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Is this a personal feeling you have or something taught?
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taught? What kind of a question is that? And why does it matter to you?
It seems horribly judgemental, never mind selfish.

I doubt it matters to Registered, I know it doesn't matter to me.

Why does it matter? It seems that all the people that feel we should be forced to care for others in the form of taxes/welfare are completely unwilling to do good things for others unless forced to do so.
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Its called principled love through the ages when someone risks his life out of compassion and brotherly love to save others.

"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known."

"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. ... "

"The needs of the many outweigh those of the one or the few"

Even "Hardened Criminals" sometimes find that they have this love inside them and may themselves be found running into a burning building to save a child they heard crying or similar.

It's a built in noblest trait of humanity that you would have to work hard to deny or be absolutely frozen in fear and afterwards people who did deny it letting others perish because they were unwilling to face giving the full measure of devotion then have a troubled conscience plaguing them the rest of their lives.

Not insane/crazy but loving and giving people who at the core of their being deeply care for their friends, neighbors and family.

However this is different than rescuing someone from a financially dumb mistake or inconvenient situation, this is about life and death. The Adults who sank their boat are facing a speed bump in life and hopefully won't be expecting the easy way out to become the norm.

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The Adults who sank their boat are facing a speed bump in life and hopefully won't be expecting the easy way out to become the norm.
Love that you call them adults instead of "kids". "Kids" is an excuse.
As to your last sentence ...... too late it's already a Gofundme world and quickly becoming genetic.

The hysterical laughter you hear as you drive a way in your"new" boat ..... is the seller.
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I agree a lot of people on here are so hard on people just starting out or even on people in General. Some of the sailors on here are such "Know it all's" or their way or no way attitudes? I would say from my 12 years experience of living aboard and cruising on the Gulf Waters, that it is probably the best place in the country to start sailing from. If you are going to ground out or sink a sailboat the Gulf of Mexico is the best place to do it. The Gulf is almost all sand, and if you ground out you can take an Anchor and your dingy and get yourself off the sandbar. The same sandbars I used to paint the bottom of my sailboats with so many times without ever taking it out of the water. Yet that's another story altogether lol. If you are new to sailing and sink your boat at least the Gulf is warm water and you won't freeze to death in it.
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If you are new to sailing and sink your boat at least the Gulf is warm water and you won't freeze to death in it.
And where I am at, if you are within 5 miles of shore, you can walk in after you sink.
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I agree a lot of people on here are so hard on people just starting out or even on people in General. Some of the sailors on here are such "Know it all's" or their way or no way attitudes? I would say from my 12 years experience of living aboard and cruising on the Gulf Waters, that it is probably the best place in the country to start sailing from. If you are going to ground out or sink a sailboat the Gulf of Mexico is the best place to do it. The Gulf is almost all sand, and if you ground out you can take an Anchor and your dingy and get yourself off the sandbar. The same sandbars I used to paint the bottom of my sailboats with so many times without ever taking it out of the water. Yet that's another story altogether lol. If you are new to sailing and sink your boat at least the Gulf is warm water and you won't freeze to death in it.
Just don't do it at feeding time. The Bull Sharks can get real aggressive at dusk and they like to bask alongside the sandbars. Sometimes from the air they can look like cord wood lined up on one side waiting for someone to swim over the bar.

Here is one lone shark in water that's just over knee deep.
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...It seems that all the people that feel we should be forced to care for others in the form of taxes/welfare are completely unwilling to do good things for others unless forced to do so.
You seem to hang out with very different people from the rest of us. Even people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates would find this comment repugnant.

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....Even people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates would find this comment repugnant.
Why do you think this?
Have you spoken with Warren and Bill about this?
Are they on SN?
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Re: Another newbe sank their boat

Rick,

Don’t engage .
Some of The new SN posters are ones whose profile is one who turns every thread into a political or moral statement.
It’s hard to have a logical discourse with the self prescribed Socrates and Plato’s.
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