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Speaking of which I have a 10K AC unit.

I'm guessing I need to add a soft start capacitor?

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Oh, and the "trick" with connecting the generator to the dryer outlet to backfeed the house? DON'T YOU DARE!! It will result in damage and/or injury...
Well, if you know what you're doing and are 100% certain you have disconnected your house from the grid and 100% certain you wired your cord correctly then this trick works quite well with no damage or injury at all.
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Dumb question alert - Why don't people re-power with gen sets and electric motors?

Would that not be cheaper than diesel ?

This one would seem to be almost big enough . .

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Duromax-...00EH/301299049
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Dumb question alert - Why don't people re-power with gen sets and electric motors?

Would that not be cheaper than diesel ?

This one would seem to be almost big enough . .

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Duromax-...00EH/301299049
Some people do. I did ten years ago when my diesel died from a cracked cylinder.
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The 50 lb Honda 2200 is perfect for charging and even electro-sailing on boats 40 feet and under. It's small and easy to move around and stow. Plus it's very quiet and can be worked on a table for maintenance. The generator you linked to is big and noisy better to use that type on land where space is not a problem.

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Dumb question alert - Why don't people re-power with gen sets and electric motors?

Would that not be cheaper than diesel ?

This one would seem to be almost big enough . .

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Duromax-...00EH/301299049
Depending on the boat and how you do it the conversion could be a lot more expensive. The problem with electric is range. To have the same range on electric as a typical boat with diesel you would need a couple thousand pounds and similar dollars in batteries. Or if you want to run the electric directly from a generator you will need a very large generator. To replace a 20 HP diesel you need 15 kW of electric (yes that's a simplification and ignores parasitic loads, the torque argument, etc, etc, etc). Of course in a small boat with a 20 HP diesel under calm cruising conditions you might only use 8-12 HP but that's still a 6-7 kW generator which would leave you short if you needed max emergency power for something. Even a 6-7 kW generator is big, heavy and expensive plus you still have an engine to maintain and fuel tanks to fill so what's the reason.

For cruisers that only need power to get to and from a dock or mooring or never motor long distances, then electric is a great option.
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Well, I fired up the Honda 2100i, then fired up every 110AC appliance I have on the boat - it never struggled or surged - I love it.

I even had one of my friends on his boat 75 feet away listen to see if he could hear it running - he said no, he could not hear it at all. WOW! This is an incredible machine.

I just ordered the exhaust extension and it will be here next week. Gotta play it safe.

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Glad it's working well. Sound traveling has everything to do with ambient wind noise and direction. I'm afraid I'm not going to take for granted it could never be heard in an anchorage.

I was recently anchored on Block Island, with a Hylas next to us that ran it's generator all night long. Air conditioning, I presume. I never heard it, not even the exhaust splash, but the wind was blowing 15 kts. If it was still, or perhaps if they were upwind, I'm sure I would have.


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The Honda is a great product but I went with the higher output of the Yamaha 2400 which gives me the power to run the ac and everything else onboard.

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Re: New Genset from Honda

I've never used one of these things, so take what I say with a grain of salt: Be careful if you're anchoring in a place with currents. You can easily find the wind blowing into your companionway hatch (as I experienced on Bohemia River), carrying the fumes from your scoop-mounted genset with it. And the argument that CO is heavier than air is incorrect - at a given temperature it's about the same weight as nitrogen (and lighter than oxygen), but since it's coming out the exhaust hot it will be lighter than ambient air. If your boat is backwinded due to current alignment, one could envision the hot fumes rising off the water into your cockpit, then as the fumes cool they fall down the companionway into your cabin. A CO detector would be an absolute must.
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