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An Open Letter to Peter Harris, President/CEO of West Marine, Inc.

Below is a letter I sent to West Marine CEO Peter Harris. I urge people to stand up to West Marine's pricing arrogance and service indifference by purchasing their boating supplies elsewhere...

April 29, 2007

Mr. Peter Harris
President and Chief Executive Officer
West Marine, Inc.
500 Westridge Drive
Watsonville, CA 95076

Dear Mr. Harris:

I know there are other avenues within your company for correspondence such as mine, so I apologize in advance for attempting to impose upon your time. However, even at your level, I’d hope you’d want to hear about how things are going at the individual store level, especially when a customer’s experience may reflect a broader trend. It’s one thing to lose a customer such as myself; quite another when the numbers may be adding up. I note from your SEC 10-K filing, and analyst reports that, financially, things aren’t stellar at West Marine. Perhaps my story can be useful, especially when I know it’s not unique.

On Saturday, April 28th, I entered your store in Tracys Landing, MD, intending to buy a variety of lines for my sailboat. Specifically, I needed Sta-Set Polyester 7/16” @ $1.29/foot, total 110 ft. = $141.90; 5/16” @ $.76/foot, total 55 ft. = $41.80, and a 20 ft. dock line @. $2.09/foot = $41.80. According to your catalog prices, I was about to spend $225.50. I assume that would be an above-average single purchase, even by West Marine’s standards.

I arrived early – before 9:00am, because my experience at this store is that it’s difficult at times, particularly on a busy Saturday, to find someone to help you when you need assistance. Upon arrival, I approached two sales representatives and asked, “Who would like to help me get some lines cut?” A gentleman named Norman offered to help me and we went to the back of the store where spools of line are stacked. I had brought an old line with me to ensure I got the right size. I pointed to the Sta-Set lines Polyester lines and stated that’s what I wanted for my jib sheets. We determined my size was 7/16”, but that size was not in the group. He suggested another line of the same size and I had to inform him it was a dock line, not suited for my purpose (something a knowledgeable sales person would have known). He then spotted a spool up on a shelf that appeared to be what I wanted. He brought it down, it looked right, he cut two 55’ foot lengths, helped me with the other lines and I proceeded to the checkout counter.

When the cashier totaled the order, with tax, it came to over $400.00. I questioned the total, noting the jib sheets rang up at $2.83/foot. Norman told me he was sure he had written down the correct SKUs. I said there’s no way the lines I wanted cost that much and we returned to the back of the store where we discovered the lines he cut were XLS Extra-T Double Braid, a superior quality line that was not what I had requested. Norman, confused as to what to do, went and got the manager.

When the manager arrived, the first words out of his mouth were, “Well, it looks like you just bought those lines.” I began to object and he clearly wasn’t having it. Eventually, with Norman standing by, I was able to explain what had happened. The manager finally said, “Oh, now I understand. Tell you, what I’ll do. You don’t have to buy the lines if you don’t want them.” I had already made it clear I had no intention of buying them, became very angry and berated him and his attitude quite loudly, pointing out this was not the first time he had been rude to me and I walked out of the store, telling him I’d never be back, and leaving all of the lines I had been prepared to buy behind. I returned in a few seconds and informed him the matter was not going to end there. He had nothing to say except to try to return a $10 Rewards coupon I had left on the counter. I told him what he could do with it. By the way, I note you appear to have reduced the normal “reward” from $15 to $10. Cost cutting?

In isolation, while I would have been offended by his attitude toward a regular customer, I would not have reacted as extremely as I did. However, as mentioned, he had been confrontational with me previously when I tried to use an online discount code that I had just checked on your web site (where it was accepted). The only reason I didn’t order it on the web site was because I figured I’d rather give the local store the business and I could get the item immediately. He refused to accept the coupon, saying it was fraudulent ( and he had been informed by corporate Internal Affairs (or some similar sounding organization) not to take it. When I showed him my printout from, he relented. However, he clearly was not happy and had caused me to feel embarrassed as though I had tried to do something wrong.

Further, I have witnessed him being rude or confrontational to other customers and have had conversations with people who have had unfortunate experiences with him in the store and either go to competitors’ stores, or online, or to the West Marine in Edgewater, MD, where the manager has been building an excellent reputation for her customer service.

Another problem I’ve noted with the Tracys Landing store is that there appears to be excessive staff turnover. It is rare to find anyone who is knowledgeable about the products in the store. I’m now wondering, if Dave treats his customers the way he does, how does he treat his staff?
Again, in isolation, I wouldn’t bother to send this letter; I’d simply stop patronizing West Marine. However, it seems patron dissatisfaction with West Marine may be a bit of an epidemic. I live in a waterfront community and have asked around my neighborhood. Some have personal stories re the local store; others go out of their way to shop elsewhere because of the prices.

Further, I subscribe to an email group of owners of a particular manufacturer’s boats. I’m enclosing a few samples of their enedited comments (minus names, to respect their privacy). These people have demonstrated by their participation in the email discussions that they are among the most knowledgeable sailors. As this is just one group, I have to assume you’d find similar discussions taking place all over the internet. Surely, you can draw your own conclusions from their comments. At minimum, you’re beginning to suffer from a significant image problem.

Sorry for taking so much of your time here, assuming this actually reaches your desk. But I think it’s important to speak up now and then. This is one former customer’s story, one who spent, according to my credit card records, over $1,000 in your stores last year – in what was a “light” spending year (in the previous year I spent that much on one purchase). Multiply this by who-knows-how-many, and you may want to be concerned.

LM Kelly

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What a loser...go whine somewhere else.
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The market sorts that stuff out.
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Why go to a store where you know the manager to be rude to begin with? In this part of Chesapeake country, there's a Waste Marine around every bend in the road. This guy's gotta be a troll anyway. Some first post.

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I must say I have had the complete opposite experience with WM.

The store here on Granville island is really friendly and I shop there above all else becasue of the service. People there always talk to me and there are quite a few seasoned sailors on staff who know a lot about the products and can give good recommendations.

You may be just experiencing a rotten apple out of the bunch
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Last I checked, most of the internet coupons are internet-only...and he is complaining that the store wouldn't accept the on-line coupon at the store?

Has Mr. LM Kelly ever heard of a phone... it is a device you can use to see if a store has something in stock before going over to the store to buy said items.

Also, if he knew one store had better customer service and more knowledgeable staff...why'd he go to the other store in the first place. I've been to both of the stores in question, and the Edgewater store is both larger and much more sailboat oriented as I recall it.

He had a choice... but he wanted the discount of internet shopping, and the instant gratification of using the closest store to him, rather than one with knowledgable staff... what did he expect would happen???

The individual stores vary quite a bit. At one store, the clerk noticed my West Marine Advantage key tag was falling apart and told me I should call to get a new one. At the store I normally shop at, the assistant manager noticed and called and had them send me a new one. I know the staff, most of whom are very knowledgeable, and management at this particular store, and they've done things like special order items for me on my say so, rather than requiring payment up front. Not all of them are sailors, but almost all of them are boaters of some sort.


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Both stores in the greater Victoria area have excellent staff. Now prices I'll sypathize with you on. But then again that's yet another reason to support local small shops. Almost everything is cheaper at the local commercial fishermans store. WM provides convenience. The same logic that allows me to but Arrowroot biscuits for $4.50 at 7-11. Personally I stay away from box stores in general, I've only been in a Walmart once and I ain't going back. I like supporting the local guy/girl. WM is kinda like a mini box store for sailors (except not cheap) so I only hit it up if I need too. I'm affraid I can't support you on this one. WM is what it is.
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The staff in my local West stores have all been polite and tried to be helpful, and usually were/are. Same for the West stores I've been to out of my area.

On the other hand, West's prices often baffle me no end. I'd swear, sometimes they just add another digit at one end or the other, totally at random, just to see who'll pay it.

I can see that someone would want to price local stock to cover the price of the local store overhead--but at the same time, if they want me to GO to the store, that trip costs me money too. And while I'm there, I usually walk the aisles to see what else I forgot about. So the business about dual pricing, just doesn't fly with me. If local pricing is going to be higher--the store just isn't going to get my regular business, and that opens up a whole world of internet competition that might.
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Yeesh. I wonder how many letters he's written to Burger King?

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When I first got my fixer upper, I had it on the hard at Herrington Harbor South at Tracy's Landing, and I spent a lot of time in that West Marine Store. It's fair to say that 80% of the stuff I did to the boat came from there because it was so convenient. Pricing: in and out, some bad, some good, like any store. Dave: great guy. Saw me come into the store once in my working clothes (paint covered shorts and a t-shirt with a huge hole in the side) and gave me a free West Marine t-shirt - probably to keep me from embarrassing his store. (Of course, I wear the West Marine shirt around in the real world and still work in the one with the hole - why waste a good shirt?) Staff turnover: yes, but there is always high turnover in those low paying jobs.

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