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Amoug the most important government documents I have is my passport. It is good for 10 years. Why can’t my boats passport be good for more than 1 year?
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Agreed. That would save both us and the Feds a ton of time and $$.
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That service will only cost you 75 bucks a year..don't ask me how I know...read the fine print and buyer beware!


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That service will only cost you 75 bucks a year..don't ask me how I know...read the fine print and buyer beware!
Sounds like a "deal". Do they hand deliver the document to your boat?

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Does this company offer a service the federal or state government does not? Can you choose to do a subscription service where they automatically renew for you? If so depending on the price, it would be worth it to me, I hate doing paperwork or paying bills.

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Does this company offer a service the federal or state government does not? Can you choose to do a subscription service where they automatically renew for you? If so depending on the price, it would be worth it to me, I hate doing paperwork or paying bills.
Yes, they upcharge you and do it for you, annually. I've seen pricing in the neighborhood of 3X for that service. I still bet you need to confirm data for them annually, so I don't really see the advantage of sending it to them, over sending it to the NVDC.

The fact that they actually provide a service is the only reason this scam doesn't land them in jail. It's deceptive.


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Re: Finally, they've gone and done it

The scammer approach and misleading language of Maritime Documentation Center is well known. Annual renewal of your Certificate of Documentation calls for you to 1/ sign a statement to the effect that there have been no changes to the information they have on file and 2/ send a check for the renewal. it is not difficult, time-consuming, or worth complaining about. (Or worth paying someone like Maritime Documentation Center - $75 a year ????- to do for you.)

Having the certificate last longer than a year might be convenient, but there may be reasons for that not to happen. Are most Certificates of Documentation for commercial vessels? They may get bought or sold, modified, or have new managing partners more frequently than our staid, unchanging cruisers. Perhaps annual renewals helps the USCG actually keep track of things that they need to keep track of. Imagine if someone filed a claim against a vessel and it's owners, say for polluting a harbor with oil from the bilges, and the ownership had changed three times in ten years. With a long-term certificate, if someone "forgot" to inform the authorities, the original owner - totally innocent and no longer involved with the vessel in question - would have to be targeted in the claim, since their name would be on the paperwork. Not fun.
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Sounds like a "deal". Do they hand deliver the document to your boat?

Sure, I've got some beach front property in Arizona you might be interested in too..


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....Imagine if someone filed a claim against a vessel and it's owners, say for polluting a harbor with oil from the bilges, and the ownership had changed three times in ten years. With a long-term certificate, if someone "forgot" to inform the authorities, the original owner - totally innocent and no longer involved with the vessel in question - would have to be targeted in the claim, since their name would be on the paperwork. Not fun.
This is not a thing.

If your vessel is documented, you are required to notify the USCG that you sold the vessel. Whether the new owner re-documents is up to them, but there is no reason to worry about liability chasing you around, after you sell.

Bureaucracies draw their life energy from those that are willing to assume they are necessary.


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Amoug the most important government documents I have is my passport. It is good for 10 years. Why can’t my boats passport be good for more than 1 year?
Sadly, now that we can't get pages added to our passports, we only get 3 to 4 years on ours before they are full. Even with many of the officials not stamping them at all, trying to help us out.

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