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Re: Right of Way?

The powerboat was not fishing at the time of the accident - it was either traveling to, or from, the fishing grounds. This is evidenced by the fishing rods being in the transport holders, which are situated atop the cabin - not the trolling holders, which are situated along the gunwale and across the stern of the boat. Someone on the powerboat, obviously, was not paying attention to what they were doing.

The powerboat was a 6-pack, uninspected vessel, which is also obvious because there is no life raft aboard, which is required on charter vessels carrying more than 6 passengers. The life raft is usually stored atop the cabin. Somebody is in a world of $hit for this one!

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wonder if that J is fixable?

and can't imagine the PB is not at fault, the CG findings will be interesting...(as usual).
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Of course the sailboat may have been under power in which case, based on the starboard side impact, the sailboat would have been the give way vessel....
Pretty academic point. Itís possible, but how many motor sailers fly both their jib and main?

The most plausible scenario I can think of, that would attribute blame to the sailboat, would be if they didnít stand on and moved into the stinkpots way. I find that hard to believe, however.


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wonder if that J is fixable?

and can't imagine the PB is not at fault, the CG findings will be interesting...(as usual).
Mast was still up - if all they have to do is fix the hull and replace the boom it might be repairable for less than the value of the boat. If the mast has to be replaced too, then it might be totaled by the insurance company.
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Major problem is that half the boat operators are below average intelligence.
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Re: Right of Way?

Charter company's logo seems fitting in this case:


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Fishing skipper's bio seems to indicate that it was a brand new boat, or at least newly added to the fleet this year.

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This morning at approximately 11:30am, a member of the Chesapeake Boating Club was under sail on one of the Clubís J/105s when they were struck by a 35í powerboat. The J/105 was struck amidships on the starboard side, with the powerboat coming to a stop on top of the sailboat. Thankfully, no one was injured. Our members were operating the boat in a safe manner, on a day with clear visibility and 10-12 knots of breeze. The J/105 crew attempted to hail the approaching boat prior to the collision, otherwise signal, and take action to avoid the collision. We would like to thank the Coast Guard and Department of Natural Resources for their rapid response to the scene.
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Major problem is that half the boat operators are below average intelligence.

Same is true of some sailboat operators too. Back when I was a lobsterboat captain I was hauling up a trawl of traps in heavy tide current. I was restricted of movement. Because of the current I had to put the boat in gear every minute or so as I hauled in the line with my traps on it. Just as I did this I looked up and a sailboat under full sail was passing from port no more than ten feet off my bow. I had to reverse engines to prevent a collision. The other guy even had the nerve to flip me off...
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Same is true of some sailboat operators too. Back when I was a lobsterboat captain I was hauling up a trawl of traps in heavy tide current. I was restricted of movement. Because of the current I had to put the boat in gear every minute or so as I hauled in the line with my traps on it. Just as I did this I looked up and a sailboat under full sail was passing from port no more than ten feet off my bow. I had to reverse engines to prevent a collision. The other guy even had the nerve to flip me off...
Yes, sailors can make mistakes, and can double down by doing rude stuff.

But I'm just curious, since you were RAM, and apparentiy did this on a regular basis, did your have your ball-diamond-ball dayshapes up? Or failing that, did you at least issue a securite over the radio so people weren't guessing?

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^^^ A fishing vessel who has their maneuverability restricted by their gear/ hauling nets etc. shows 2 cones or a basket, they should not claim RAMN.

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