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While I know her pedigree, I doubt even she would be willing to say she was immune to chafe. Do we know how it parted?
I think I read somewhere that her drogue's bridle was still fastened to the boat but the drogue itself was gone. If that's true, then chafing wasn't the issue.
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While I know her pedigree, I doubt even she would be willing to say she was immune to chafe. Do we know how it parted?
Really? Immune to chafe?
If your life was on the line, as hers was, don't you think you would do everything in your power to prevent any chafe?

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Pin the tale on the donkey here....

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Here is a copy and paste from the GGR page.

Speaking with emotion, but sounding very much in control of her situation,*Susie*also confirmed that she had secured all hatches, portholes and safety equipment, and did NOT need immediate assistance. She said that before the incident, she had been enjoying the conditions and felt in control. But then the safety tube on her Monitor self-steering broke and she was forced to trail a drogue anchor astern and take down the mainsail. She was below decks when the boat was pitchpoled, and when she returned on deck to assess the damage, found that the line attached to the drogue had parted.


Was sailing along on self steering, self steering broke. She then attached her drogue and at some point went below. Boat pitch poled and dismasted. She then discovered the line that the drogue attached to had parted.

I gather this information was collected over sat phone in rough conditions from a wrecked boat.

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Really? Immune to chafe?
If your life was on the line, as hers was, don't you think you would do everything in your power to prevent any chafe?
Not sure what's in your knickers on this one. How do you think it parted and where?


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Saw this article from the BBC today about Goodalls rescue.

Her boat was dead in the water. Rescueing ship was a good sized ship; 40 000 tons, 600 ish ft long, 30 ish foot draft. Sea state 3-4 meters (around 10-14 feet). The weather was too rough for the cargo ship to launch her RIB, so instead they had to maneuver the ship alongside Goodalls boat and I guess she would have climbed up a ladder or net.

Pretty skilled boat handling for the skipper of the cargo ship I would say.

Any, she is safe aboard.


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Saw this article from the BBC today about Goodalls rescue.

Her boat was dead in the water. Rescueing ship was a good sized ship; 40 000 tons, 600 ish ft long, 30 ish foot draft. Sea state 3-4 meters (around 10-14 feet). The weather was too rough for the cargo ship to launch her RIB, so instead they had to maneuver the ship alongside Goodalls boat and I guess she would have climbed up a ladder or net.

Pretty skilled boat handling for the skipper of the cargo ship I would say.

Any, she is safe aboard.


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Actually, they used one of their cranes, swinging it out and dropping the cable so she could just clip on a line hanging below the hook. Pretty imaginative, IMO.
Three cheers to that Chinese crew for a job well done! I'm guessing this will become the standard method of yacht crew rescue by ships with cranes in the future. Way easier and safer than any other method I think.

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I like the crane method. Makes me wonder why it hasn't been SOP. Was Goodall dismasted in the pitchpole? Maybe they are typically worried about getting fouled up in the rigging.


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I like the crane method. Makes me wonder why it hasn't been SOP. Was Goodall dismasted in the pitchpole? Maybe they are typically worried about getting fouled up in the rigging.
Yes, she was dismasted. Not even a stump left.
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The crane method would certainly come with its own set of risks. The crane hook in the rescue images looks like a smaller single block hook. The hook probably still weighs 40-50 plus pounds, of solid unyielding steel, a smack up the side of the head with that would be bad.

In 4 meter seas the 4 ton yacht would most certainly be out of sink with the 40000 ton ship. The yacht would be heaving up and down maybe 10 feet with every wave, rolling, pitching. In order to get the hook to her, they likely would have had to throw a control line to her so she could control the hook as the winch operator paid it out.

Once the hook was at deck level she would have had to figure a way to control the weight of the hook and hook it into her harnesssling as her yacht continued to heave out of sink with the ship. Then the winch operator would have had to heave at the right moment so as not to hurt her.

There is a reason pilots use ladders to board and rescues are often done by lifting the rib to deck level. Uncontrolled crane hooks in close proximity to heads and faces arent the safest thing on the planet. Its awesome it worked, but I cant imagine cargo ships will stop recovering people with life boats and pilot ladders any time soon.

For comparison, here is a look at the type of hook used for helo rescues. https://lifesavingsystems.com/produc...er-hoist-hooks

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