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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

OS jobs can be found through the seafarers international union, the oilfield in the gulf has been in fits and starts but jobs on supply boats can be found. Also tug companies anywhere in the US.

Is there a reason you want to work specifically on non US flagged vessels?

I worked on Marshall Islands flagged vessels but only as an engineer in the AMO. The non licensed crew members were foreign. The dynamically positioned drilling rig I worked on was MI registered but utilized Americans as OS and AB.
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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

You need to talk to a lawyer.

The internet is the worst place mankind has ever invented for legal advice, which is exactly what you're asking for.

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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

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You need to talk to a lawyer.

The internet is the worst place mankind has ever invented for legal advice, which is exactly what you're asking for.
If you had READ my post, you would have seen that I asked for ONLY maritime labor lawyers or crew placement specialists or an American with first hand knowledge to respond.

Why are you posting such a useless reply?


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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

The commercial maritime industry tends to be very cost conscious, and often IMO abusive to employees, so I imagine being hired internationally in that industry as an American would be an uphill battle.

There are specialist positions very hard to fill, where companies are willing to invest the time and energy to "sponsor" the employee, pay for the lawyers etc required.

When they say Schengen "visa", they likely mean they are only hiring those qualified to **work** in the EU, with all the pre-requisite paperwork in hand at the time you apply for the job.

Even if you do invest the many months and thousands of dollars required to get authoritative legal advice documented, that will not change their mind about what their requirements are.
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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

And good luck telling people what to post.

Feel free to just ignore those posts that you consider unhelpful, no point in getting upset trying to control such things in an open forum, just makes you look, well, leave it at that.
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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

Well it appears that I'm not going to get any useful answers, just useless unwanted information, even as I thought I asked very politely for only certain people to reply.


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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

Let it sit a few months, monitor weekly, someone qualified may eventually come along.

Just realize they're answer will likely not be what you want to hear.
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Re: US citizen working on foreign-flagged vessels #2

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Well it appears that I'm not going to get any useful answers, just useless unwanted information, even as I thought I asked very politely for only certain people to reply.
A duplicate thread? I just noticed the original was edited too.

You really think you've been all that polite? Your original premise belittle anyone without the prerequisite to answer your question, when you have no way to know if they have it or not. You can't get social media to follow your directive and more than you can get these foreign employers to cooperate. Not how life works.

I'm seeing a pattern.
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A duplicate thread? I just noticed the original was edited too.

You really think you've been all that polite? Your original premise belittle anyone without the prerequisite to answer your question, when you have no way to know if they have it or not. You can't get social media to follow your directive and more than you can get these foreign employers to cooperate. Not how life works.

I'm seeing a pattern.
Hey, it's really nothing to concern ourselves with. This person wouldn't last a week on a crew anyway, with his attitude.
I've seen it dozens of times (and fired 'em all); they won't be on the boat more than 24 hours before they're telling everybody, including the captain, that they've a better way to do everything, including clean the toilets!
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