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Until recently the city of St. Paul didnít have municipal trash pickup. Each homeowner had to contract their own, which meant that in some parts of the city there were as many as six different trash haulers. Instead of one truck a week coming down the alley, sometimes youíd have several trucks in the same day. It was inefficient and stupid.

They finally switched to a municipal system where the city contracts one hauler per area and you pay the fee on your water bill. Itís simpler, costs are lower, and thereís less heavy vehicle traffic which means less noise and less alley repair.


But wow did some people get mad. People wrote furious letters to the editor complaining that they make very little trash and just take a bag to the store once a week, so they didnít see why they should have to pay.

Such cognitive dissonance. They recognize that trash removal costs money; thatís what theyíre complaining about. Yet they feel that a store should provide that service to them for free.


In the case of this Publix, Iím sure theyíre more than happy to provide trash as a loss leader for your grocery business. Youíre not taking up a parking space, and their parking lot probably costs more to maintain than their trash service.

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To sum up;
A sailor got the stink eye while dropping a bag of trash in a trash receptacle in a Publix Supermarket.

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Went ashore the other day to go to grocery store. Had on clean shirt, shorts, and sandals. We had our backpack and rolly cart along with a small bag of trash to toss in the trash can at the store. As I was putting the bag of trash in the can this older woman came out of the store and gave us a look of "I hate you homeless boat people scum!"

I'm trying to figure out how she could tell.
Don, she looked at you but didn't say anything? Seriously?

Maybe she's just a grumpy person. Why would you give it more than a passing thought?

You're out sailing, enjoy the life with all its good and occasionally bad times. If in doubt pour another rum drink.
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You know

I just thought it would an amusing fun story

But nooooooooooo
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....Bet it hasn't ever occurred to you that Publix has already given permission for the cruisers to use the trash cans.
Of course, it hasn't. When I first mentioned putting trash where you didn't have permission, you responded by announcing how much money you and other cruisers spend there. You did not say you had permission.

If you did, I was wrong. However, if you didn't, it's the sort of thing that make the entire cruising community suffer a bit, as landlubbers like to bunch us all into the worst experience they have, with any one of us.

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There was an interesting article on the topic of garbage in yesterday's NYT. I bet we can all recall throwing something out that we no longer has a use for, but was fine and had no where else to send it. It isn't really trash at all, it's just stuff we no longer want or need. That clearly needs a better solution.

My wife brings all of our used clothing to the local thrift store. However, they sell very little of it. They simply get paid to have it chopped up into recyclable fibers, an industry I'm told is riddle with corruption. There has to be a better way. They also have standards that are hard to meet in some cases. If something works, but has a clear broken aesthetic piece, they won't take it. Someone might be happy to have it, but it ends up in the trash.

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I’m the poor relation in some places we cruise, and the rich phuck in others. I’ve learned there is absolutely no correlation between appearance or behavior and net worth. Before leaving this year had a genset installed at Hinckley yard. Next door neighbor on a NEB jewel was changing fluids. Thought he was a yard worker until I watched him get into his Cornishe. My crew was driving me nuts waiting to leave so the next day asked him about his car just to chat with someone else. We talked a bit and he related his belief the neighbor on the other side of the finger pier was opening the head through hulls at night. That boat was 55’ Z lander. I saw the lady on her dressed with more jewelry than seen in most jewelry stores. The man in Musto and HH head to foot. The captain with the boat name on his shirt. Said hi when I saw them but blown off every time. Truly boorish behavior.
So Don what do you do when confronted with boors? Let them rain on your parade? Or embarrass them when they act in a egocentric deleterious way then move on?
When there was a moment the owners and captain were on deck together I walked over. Told them “pretty boat too bad it smells like ****e”. Told the NEB owner of the interaction. He laughed and laughed. Every time he walked past that boat he exclaimed about the smell (there was none of course) and held his nose if there was someone on deck.
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Childish... ignore people who are not bothering you...

pay attention... someone's life depends on it
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We talked a bit and he related his belief the neighbor on the other side of the finger pier was opening the head through hulls at night.

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When there was a moment the owners and captain were on deck together I walked over. Told them ďpretty boat too bad it smells like ****eĒ.
Hey outbound, you seem like a really reasonable guy in all the stuff you write here on sailnet, so I'm assuming that this interaction had some nuances that didn't come across well in writing. Because, frankly, telling a stranger out of the blue that their boat smells like $hit (when it doesn't) based on the "belief" of some other guy, and some observations about jewelry and clothing, does not sound like a very reasonable way to interact with others.

In any event, it really doesn't matter, I'm sure you knew what you were doing and feel ok about it.
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