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Oops, that was humor - meant to insert a smiley there for Chef.

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Any of you salty bastards in the PNW (Bellingham Bay and the San Juans is where I will be) with a recommendation for bottom paint? The current plan is to haul and store it every Winter unless a deal can be found on a slip in the harbor.

Mind, the bottom is currently being sandblasted to gelcoat and I have nothing but time to make sure the prep is as perfect as it can be. A good hard paint with ablative on top?
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A good hard paint with ablative on top?
Why would you combine the two? I’d put several coats of epoxy barrier coat on the stripped hull, then apply a few of your antifoulant of choice. With ablative, many will do a unique color for the base layer, so you know if you’ve worn down to it.

I know at least one or both, Petit or Interlux, has a geographic selection tool on their website.

Getting down to bare is a nice feeling. Just be sure the barrier and paint are applied correctly too. Many have min and/or max drying times. Sometimes these are limits in which you must splash to keep the paint from over drying. For others it changes the method from hot coating to sand and coat. The truth is, I never know whether to trust the marina does this correctly.


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I can't/won't help you in your continued attempt to narrow SN down to only people in the upper Chesapeake Bay, with New Englanders allowed to watch. You will just need to continue to put up with us others. Feel free to keep your nose in the air about it - doesn't bother us.





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Not sure where this animus comes from. Iím certainly not trying to pit anyone against anyone else. Iíll leave that to you and your previous buddy SD. No one here has their nose in the air. Nor do I feel anyone, least of all me is ďputting up withĒ anyone. We are all sailors after all no matter how we use our boats. I respect your expertise and information. But I donít swallow your technique of presentation or share the way we use our boats.

It is my opinion that you continually post mostly from a cruisers point of view....which makes sense and is to be expected , as thatís what you are. There is no value judgement placed on that by me though you seem to infer that. There is room for everyone here on SN....even us Chesapeake and northern brothers.

There are many other posters on here from many other areas....the Chesapeake included. Your sailing goals and use of your boat is not the same as mine. If pointing that out makes you uncomfortable, either get some thicker skin or feel free to place me on ignore

Since most of my use of our boat includes the Chesapeake area as well as occasional trips to the north I usually post from that frame of reference. I think that makes perfect sense. I wonít apologize for that. I like where I live and sail.

Sorry you and Don feel like ďchumpsĒ for buying bottom paint......I donít. Iíll bet many of us donít feel like chumps because we do. That was a ridiculous statement..

Bottom paint is a necessity for many of us. And get the best we can.

As far as the statement about the drivers, divers, there are already a few marinas in the Chessie who have banned the use of divers in the marina proper . In fact all ďclean marinas ď in the Chessie require catching of the excess bottom paint when removing it, either by sanding or when power washing the hulls.

Iíll bet many boaters look for the most effective and cost efficient bottom paint. Thatís where Dons post was useful. Don reported on the complete ineffectiveness of the Seahawk. Thatís valuable information for the rest of us.


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I am doing all the work on this boat myself in my driveway on my 2+ acres, so I'm not worried about someone else not following the directions. Summers in this area are quite condusive to epoxies as long as you dont try to do too big of an area at once.

The reason I ask you guys and not the product websites is because of the reasons pointed out in this thread. Interlux will try to tell me to go with their expensive stuff. But CopperCoat is obviously the choice if I ask them. Living in the (much) Greater Seattle area I should definitely go with Seahawk products.
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I can't/won't help you in your continued attempt to narrow SN down to only people in the upper Chesapeake Bay, with New Englanders allowed to watch. You will just need to continue to put up with us others. Feel free to keep your nose in the air about it - doesn't bother us.





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Not sure where this animus comes from. I’m certainly not trying to pit anyone against anyone else. I’ll leave that to you and your previous buddy SD. No one here has their nose in the air. Nor do I feel anyone, least of all me is “putting up with” anyone. We are all sailors after all no matter how we use our boats. I respect your expertise and information. But I don’t swallow your technique of presentation or share the way we use our boats.

It is my opinion that you continually post mostly from a cruisers point of view....which makes sense and is to be expected , as that’s what you are. There is no value judgement placed on that by me though you seem to infer that. There is room for everyone here on SN....even us Chesapeake and northern brothers.
The only animosity is coming from you, brother. He made a broad statement covering everyone, yet No one, and you took it as a personal affront.

This is the internet. Take everything with a grain of salt and realize they arent always talking about you.

Also, every one is a chump one way or another. I buy tools off thr Snap-On tool truck. That totally makes me a chump. So be it. I dont care if someone thinks that.
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Re: Seahawk Bottom Paint - **UCKS!

Too bad sears went belly up and craftsmanís is now Chinese junk. Thereís limited space on a boat. I buy snap on when I can as well.
When I was in the northeast I was obligated to pick up the diver and leave the marina, anchor and clean. Think thatís pretty common. Shoots the whole day. Down here in Eastern Caribbean it means additional expense in many places for the opposite reason. The divers like to do multiple boats in a given day so want you in a slip in a marina. If you want to get things done through the island time mentality you go into a slip. Also ever try cleaning a bottom where thereís a current? Not pleasant. Ever try cleaning a bottom in cold water? Not pleasant. In the absence of holding tanks thereís many places I wonít make water, wonít use a bucket of sea water to flush off the deck and definitely wonít enter the water. Lastly Iím alone on the boat not infrequently if things go wrong it not a good thing. Donít even have someone to hand me tools. Now the wifeís with me full time she doesnít want to sit around while I do the bottom.
I donít like marinas nor slips. I would like a bottom paint that works. Iím fairly convinced all brands work less well and for a shorter period of time then they did in the past. I further wonder if the increasing restrictions have any meaningful impact on the environment.
So I think the high price stuff is worth it. When they outlaw Cu and impose the California rules it may not be but for present it is.

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Re: Seahawk Bottom Paint - **UCKS!

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The only animosity is coming from you, brother. He made a broad statement covering everyone, yet No one, and you took it as a personal affront.

This is the internet. Take everything with a grain of salt and realize they arent always talking about you.

Also, every one is a chump one way or another. I buy tools off thr Snap-On tool truck. That totally makes me a chump. So be it. I dont care if someone thinks that.
Amusing....😄😄🌪🌪🤘🤘. And a waste of time to continue

So do you have anything to add to the subject at hand......bottom paint?


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